• coffee_nutcase207@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I’m a actually not that cynical of it. In her book she was critical of who the establishment in the Biden administration treated her.

    Worse case is she’s endorsing him to make her self look good. But honestly I think it’s great she did endorse him. It will go a long way with causal/centrist democrats and centerist independents.

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      3 hours ago

      I’m taking the broad position that last-minute endorsements of Mamdani are just saving face for the establishment. That window closes in mid-October or so.

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        2 hours ago

        Want change in the party This is how it happens. Purity tests leave you a political outsider. Welcome each endorsement and they can be reminded later.

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          29 minutes ago

          Yeah but it’s still just PR to save face. Zohran can use all the endorsements he can get but let’s make sure these ghouls are replaced ASAP.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s kinda how I feel about corporations supporting good things. People will point out that they’re only doing it for money or whatever, but I don’t care. If they all start supporting and normalizing good things, I don’t care that it started for dumb reasons.

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        5 hours ago

        I studied environmental sciences in school, so the metaphor I think of is that of indicator species, which provide information about the state of an ecosystem. For example, the presence of mayflies indicates good water quality, since poor water quality disrupts part of their lifecycle. Similarly, corporations supporting good things indicates that they feel it is profitable to do so. It indicates the state of public sentiment, and I don’t see how that’s anything but good news.

        Same with Harris (indirectly) endorsing Mamdani: Maybe she’s just bending with the wind, but it’s good news because of the way the wind is blowing.

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      5 hours ago

      Worse case is she’s going to insincerely try to take on the appearance of a progressive

      But she’s just one of many figures being groomed to do this, so hopefully it just helps cement Mumdani as the spiritual leader of the party

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          47 minutes ago

          No shot…He has nothing to gain there, he’s leading by massive numbers and his eyes aren’t empty and soulless

          But that would put out the last spark of hope within me if it did happen

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        4 hours ago

        Nobody believes her, just like nobody believes Hilary. The constant fence-hopping goes beyond someone learning new information and switching stances, its pure opportunism, and thus not genuine.

        And honestly, her endorsing him is more a disservice in my eyes than helping him. She’s performed poorly and make others think that Mumdani is not genuine by association.

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          53 minutes ago

          The difference between her and Hilary is that Harris is an avatar of the party, Hilary was (and still is to a lesser extent) a major player in the party

          Harris is just like Biden… Her position is the party line. So if Harris is endorsing Mumdani, that signals some faction of the party might be finally waking up and realizing progressives are going to sweep the next election

          As for the endorsement itself…I don’t think it dings Mumdani in any way. If anything, I think it just makes him look stronger, because he hasn’t budged an inch and the Democratic establishment is slowly coming to him