• primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus
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    15 hours ago

    No. It was a prosecutor–which is a kind of cop.

    It has not apologized condemned or made amends for its past behavior–therefore it is still a cop.

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      11 hours ago

      I loathe harris but calling her “it” is pretty douchey. Why do that? Why attack her gender? Did her gender in particular do something to you?

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        9 hours ago

        It’s a cop. Cops aren’t people. Thus ‘it’.

        We do not typically gender objects in English.

        In Spanish or French I would use the feminine singular form of whatever the fuck I was calling it. I am not speaking Spanish or French. I am speaking English. So I use ‘it’.

        • You may not be trying to misgender Harris, but using object pronouns as if they’re an inherently bad thing is pretty insensitive to those who use it/its pronouns

          Also, dehumanizing the enemy is pretty slippery rhetoric. You can admit/accept that they’re people while advocating for violence against them regardless

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            8 hours ago

            It’s not inherently bad. There are plenty of objects ive been very fond of over the years. None of them were cops, but, you know, stuffed animals, buildings, a pot that I bought in a shopping trip with someone I loved but had a really complicated relationship with and cooked a lot of meals with over the years. All properly 'it’s, though i admit some of the stuffed animals did get gendered; I was a small child.

            A cop is not a person. It can’t be (safely) talked with, can’t communicate honestly, does not have human compassion, does not self reflect, does not have capacity for critical thought in any way that matters. In both practical and philosophical terms–cops are missing some important parts of ‘person’.

            Some of the people who kill me in the water wars in a few years might be people(but who the fuck knows at this point). And I bet I’ll want to kill them (for their water). The tankies who try to murder me if we pull off a revolution will probably be people (if its still soon enough that they don’t have the cops do it). Cops are not people–if they were, they wouldn’t be cops.

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            8 hours ago

            Cops aren’t people. I will not talk about a cop in such a way as to leave a reader with the impression it’s a person–you can do that inclusive of gender in many languages. English is not one of them.

            Unless you mean English. Then yes–absolutely weapon of the enemy, but I don’t speak anything else well enough to get by.

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          14 hours ago

          Oh!

          it’s (cops are objects not people)

          “It” being Harris, and the parenthesis part being the posters sentiment, not Harris’s

          I thought Harris had at some point said that cops were not people, which would be an amazing thing for her to say.

          Sorry, I get it now

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            13 hours ago

            Correct. ‘It’ referring to Harris and an explanation of why I’m not talking like it’s a person (because it is not).

            Its supporters have not said cool things. Maybe ever. When talking, they mostly just blame ‘tankies’ and other people whose loyalty their masters were entitled to not voting for their defeat in the last election. Very loudly and vitriolically, in a way sure to build strong coalitions in the future. There’s a chance they’re all bots. Nobody actually liked it.