That episode also notes there are only five Federation ships named “Enterprise” up to that point. By the dialog, Scotty asks for “The Enterprise. Show me the Bridge of the Enterprise”, without even specifying the Federation. The computer inferred that part on its own.
The NX-01 would probably count as a Federation ship after it was founded and Star Fleet was brought under it. There’s also the ring ship model seen in The Motion Picture, though IIRC, there’s no alpha canon source on its details. The unofficial details are that it was an experiment using Vulcan rings instead of nacelles. This was more efficient, but limited top speed, so it was abandoned in future Star Fleet designs.
So basically, that episode already has a bunch of issues with canon both before and after.
Roddenberry had a bunch of issues thinking about scale. He probably had the cramped quarters of WW2 ships in mind–even the captain of CV-6 Enterprise didn’t have big quarters–but that’s not how it works for the ships he imagined. The original Connie is huge for the number of people on board. Consider that modern cruise ships have crew+passengers of several thousand people, but have significantly less internal deck space than a Connie would have; even so, there’s places on board that are pretty quiet much of the time. The Enterprise-D sometimes cites 1,050 total people on board, and that should feel almost completely empty outside of specific areas where people tend to congregate.
In other words, the original easily had enough space for lavish crew accommodations for the senior people. It seems silly that TOS Kirk’s quarters aren’t much bigger than an efficiency apartment.
That episode also notes there are only five Federation ships named “Enterprise”
That can be trivially explained away as the Enterprise NX-01 being commissioned as an Earth Starfleet ship, not a Federation Starfleet ship. The NX-01 predates the Federation.
I know you say in your opinion it probably counts as a Federation commissioned ship, but meh, I can also easily see it not counting.
But DIS fixes this by showing that almost all of that internal space is taken up by the weird turbo lift dimension, and thus the rest of the ship is fairly busy and cramped. /j
That episode also notes there are only five Federation ships named “Enterprise” up to that point. By the dialog, Scotty asks for “The Enterprise. Show me the Bridge of the Enterprise”, without even specifying the Federation. The computer inferred that part on its own.
The NX-01 would probably count as a Federation ship after it was founded and Star Fleet was brought under it. There’s also the ring ship model seen in The Motion Picture, though IIRC, there’s no alpha canon source on its details. The unofficial details are that it was an experiment using Vulcan rings instead of nacelles. This was more efficient, but limited top speed, so it was abandoned in future Star Fleet designs.
So basically, that episode already has a bunch of issues with canon both before and after.
Roddenberry had a bunch of issues thinking about scale. He probably had the cramped quarters of WW2 ships in mind–even the captain of CV-6 Enterprise didn’t have big quarters–but that’s not how it works for the ships he imagined. The original Connie is huge for the number of people on board. Consider that modern cruise ships have crew+passengers of several thousand people, but have significantly less internal deck space than a Connie would have; even so, there’s places on board that are pretty quiet much of the time. The Enterprise-D sometimes cites 1,050 total people on board, and that should feel almost completely empty outside of specific areas where people tend to congregate.
In other words, the original easily had enough space for lavish crew accommodations for the senior people. It seems silly that TOS Kirk’s quarters aren’t much bigger than an efficiency apartment.
Roddenberry always said that he didn’t care about continuity if it was in the way of a good story. He was a revisionist.
That can be trivially explained away as the Enterprise NX-01 being commissioned as an Earth Starfleet ship, not a Federation Starfleet ship. The NX-01 predates the Federation.
I know you say in your opinion it probably counts as a Federation commissioned ship, but meh, I can also easily see it not counting.
But DIS fixes this by showing that almost all of that internal space is taken up by the weird turbo lift dimension, and thus the rest of the ship is fairly busy and cramped. /j