• blitzen@lemmy.ca
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    I’ve posted this elsewhere, I don’t think Richards is a piece of shit like Seinfeld.

    The Michael Richards incident was a literal one time event, albeit a terrible one. There were zero instances before and zero instances after that suggest Richards is racist. Everything since then Michaels has done suggests he’s exceedingly remorseful over it.

    I am not excusing it in the least, but I don’t think it’s even close to fair to compare him to someone currently supporting the genocide in Palestine.

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      Richards just did a bad thing once trying to shut down a heckler and it backfired hard. People just don’t want to ever forgive.

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      Is it even close to publicly supporting a genocide? Hell no. Is it something a non-racist person would ever even think to say? Also hell no.

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        So you excuse Seinfeld here, but still hold Richards 100% accountable?

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            Is it [Seinfeld’s comments] even close to publicly supporting a genocide? Hell no.

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              It looks to me like what they’re referring to is Michael Richards tirade being uncomparable to Jerry’s comments that were supporting the genocide. That’s how I read it, anyway.

              But I mean he (Richards) was talking about lynching the guy at the Laugh Factory, so even as far as racism goes, that’s pretty fucking up there.

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                It looks to me like what they’re referring to is Michael Richards tirade being uncomparable to Jerry’s comments that were supporting the genocide. That’s how I read it, anyway.

                That’s what I’m saying too. Seinfeld’s comments were made in a more calm matter, but were way way way worse than Richards’.

                But I mean he (Richards) was talking about lynching the guy at the Laugh Factory, so even as far as racism goes, that’s pretty fucking up there.

                I don’t recall the lynching comments, only the several utterances of the n word, but I could be wrong. In either case it was vile and cannot be excused. What’s more telling to me is his behavior since; he was immediately apologetic and he has remained so for 20 years

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                  The clip I saw started with him saying “50 years ago you would be ‘strung up’” which yeah, 1950’s referring to a black man would be lynching.

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                    Thank you for that context.

                    I stand by my points that his comments were vile and inexcusable, and that he’s spend the better part of twenty years also feeling that they were vile and inexcusable.

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              Okay, I suppose I was too vague.

              Is it [Richard’s comments] even close to [ being as bad as] publicly supporting a genocide? Hell no.

              I’m saying Richards may be a better person than Seinfeld, but I wouldn’t excuse his words or actions because they’re not something a non-racist would ever even think to do or say.

              Hope that is clear now.

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                And I’m not trying to excuse the words or his behavior on stage. Only trying to acknowledge his behavior since the day after the incident and for the last 20 years as steadfastly apologetic. His words were wrong, and importantly he thinks so too.