• Knightfox@lemmy.world
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    How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know

    At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why. I’m not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that’s what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don’t care except when it’s their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.

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      He was a human being who tried every day to be and say as inhumane shit as possible. Fuck anyone so willing to betray humanity.

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      At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why.

      Julius Streicher was also a human being. He was hanged at Nuremberg for the same kind of hate-mongering that Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of crimes against humanity.

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        There’s a long list of people taking our liberties away, and the guy who says stupid shit is pretty far down on that list. Words matter, but they’re not violence.

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          Why do you think the actual white power, right extremists are getting closer and closer to power everywhere? Why is there is a spike in young men leaning right? Because they listen to assholes like this one. Words are very dangerous in the long run.

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            Yes, words matter.

            But the ends don’t justify the means. Morality isn’t outcome-oriented. It’s wrong to kill someone just for their words and ideas.

            If the assassin had targeted the people enacting those ideas, that might be different. But assassinations tend to be a net negative. I can’t think of an exception.

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            No, its because they see asshole like you cheering for the murder of people who say dumb shit. How the fuck can you not see your own extremism when its so fucking blatant??? “People who dont agree with me deserve to die!”. That you lot, thats you lot right fucking now.

            Jesus christ.

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              Nah, it’s the same playbook every time. You have dangerous right wing rhetoric justifying violence (as seen in this thread, even by Kirk himself) that leads to political violence and the right is just “this is deserved” (see J6 or the attack on democratic lawmakers), but when it hits themselves, suddenly political violence is the worst and collective pearl-clutching starts. These people have created a dangerous atmosphere that they can’t control and it’s backfiring, there was never an attempt from them to defuse it.

              People like Kevin Roberts who threaten revolutions with thinly veiled violence etc… btw my personal theory is that Kirk was shot by a right wing lunatic who was disappointed in Kirk’s 180 on the Epstein files which went from something like “this is the biggest conspiracy in history, never trust the government” to “I trust my friends in the government” over a weekend. They have created an atmosphere of “you need to fight those in power by any means necessary” and now they find themselves in an awkward spot.

              Anyhow, everybody in the thread you replied to just did what Kirk ask them to. Not show empathy, not let the victims emotionally hijack the narrative. He made the world a worse place, I don’t know if it’s gonna be better without him but I have no reason to believe otherwise.

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                “Everybody in the thread just did what Kirk asked them to…” And you dont see the problem there?

                As for the world being a better place… I highly doubt it, since hes now going to be a rallying cry for action against “the left”. Hes a martyr now, a symbol that right wing lunatics while cling to as they march down the streets demanding Trans people are butchered, immigrants, legal and otherwise, are shot in the streets. “We need you, Trump, to do a third term. Its a civil war out here, dont you know?” will be next.

                Shooting people is never, ever, your first resort in silencing a voice. Facts and words are. Violence only ever causes more violence. Someone out there today, he never hurt anyone, is going to pay the price for what happened to Kirk. You know its true. You all do. Yet youre all still all over social media happy, and cheering, and back slapping.

                In the famous of words of John Wick… “Consequences.”

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                  Yup because negative consequences weren’t a thing before the guy was shot

                  since hes now going to be a rallying cry for action against “the left”.

                  If you haven’t heard any before, you might want to check with your ENT physician.

                  In the famous of words of John Wick… “Consequences.”

                  Consequences indeed

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                  They were going to make up an excuse anyways. At least this way, they actually take a loss for it. If you do not understand why this was a good thing, you’re far too innocent to understand the shitty world kirk and his ilk are trying to create.

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                So, youre the same kind of cunt he is? And youre good with that? I dont know, I would have thought seeing how much of a prick he was would put you off being one, but here you are, repeating his talking points like a fucking ghoul…

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      Whatever. He was fucking gloating ever since the MAGAts took over, while others are being violently oppressed for “not qualifying” to be “American”.

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      No he wasn’t a human being, he was a fascist. The two are mutually exclusive. The world is a better place now that he’s not in it and that’s worth celebrating.