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The Palestinian resistance group Hamas marked 700 days of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza on Friday, calling it a “stain on humanity” and urging the international community to take decisive action against the ongoing atrocities.
In a statement, Hamas highlighted its efforts to reach a ceasefire and a prisoner exchange agreement, stressing that it had “shown significant flexibility” in negotiations.
The movement blamed the repeated failure of mediators on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and called him “a war criminal committed to undermining diplomatic initiatives, pursuing indefinite plans of extermination and displacement, and placing the lives of captives at risk to serve his government’s agenda.”
Hamas renewed its call to the international community, including Arab and Islamic countries, the UN, and its organs, particularly the UN Security Council, to “fulfill their responsibilities toward the Palestinian people and intervene to halt the crimes of the fascist occupation government.”
The movement emphasized the need for “punitive measures against Israel,” warning that “mere condemnations are insufficient” and that, without substantial consequences, Israel would “continue its crimes without regard for international protests or positions.”
Hamas also praised global grassroots solidarity with the Palestinian people and welcomed the launch of the Global Sumud Flotilla, an initiative to break the blockade on Gaza.
Islamic militias have repeatedly removed/genocided Jewish people from that same disputed land for centuries. Arguably the land was stolen prior to and subsequently returned to Israeli people after WWII. What the people of Israel are doing to Palestinians now is egregious and tragic, but there has been a prolonged effort to rid the Middle East of other Religions/ethnicities by the majority Muslim population of the Middle East — Hamas is and has been founded on principles that support that effort. Otherwise they would have agreed to and abided by the treatises and two-state solutions proposals of the past.
Hamas is not a resistance force, they oppress and use the Palestinian people as it suits them in their pursuit of conquest. The people of Palestine suffer both at Hamas’s hands and the hands of Israel’s excessive and careless attempts at wiping out Hamas.
I encourage you to read about Hamas, even Wikipedia will do, and educate yourself about how they formed, who they split off from, and what their founding and current principles are.
I’m aware that the situation isn’t black and white, it’s certainly grey, and I have more than identified exactly how it is grey. I think once you educate yourself a bit more you will understand. Have a good one.
Name one single instance of ‘Islamic militias’ genociding Jews in Palesine.
Just because they haven’t ever been able to doesn’t mean they don’t WANT to. ;)
The most prominent example I can think of prior to the October 7th attack would have been the 1972 terrorist attack at the Munich Olympics:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
But the continual “you committed an atrocity so we’re going to do another” back and forth back and forth for 6,000 years is only going to ensure everyone there gets killed unless someone forces it to stop.
The group who did it was not an islamic militia and example of act of vengence which is still a crime is not a proof of genocide
Oh so they definetly want to exterminate jews, but you can’t confirm it because they don’t have the capability yet, but as soon as they have the capability, you will have proof?
That’s witch trial logic.
Is that “massacre” really the best argument you’ve got? They took hostages, trying to get a political decision made and the hostages were killed in a failed rescue attempt.
But sure, sure, we don’t negotiate with terrorists that kill or endanger civillians. That would be a fine principle, if we didn’t exclude Israel, who objectively have killed more civillians than any Palestinian resistance group.
For the sake of humanity, find empathy for brown people and educate yourself on what actually happened, instead of western/Israeli propaganda repeating the dehumanization of muslims.
It takes a shit ton of lying to defend a genocide, so don’t get discouraged when it takes time and effort to unlearn the propagande, but if we let this “slide” the world will not forget, and neither will those of us who saw through the shit.
You can definitely go by all their repeated calls for the destruction of Israel.
But if you look at their actions, shooting what might as well be bottle rockets across the border, yeah, not super effective.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/20/middleeast/hamas-fires-rockets-at-israel-first-time-since-truce-collapse-intl
Israel rolls in, kills 500 people (200 kids!), Hamas shoots three rockets doing no damage, as usual.
Again, the will is there, but the ability is absolutely not.
Palestine was occupied in 72. Yes , palestinians killing innocent israelis is wrong and should be condemned but we need to acknowledge the root of the problem otherwise you eon’t stop the violence
I didn’t say back and forth. I said name one.
The only party continually massacaring Jews were Europeans. There wasn’t a genocide of Palestinian Jews in the Caliphate. In fact the Jews living in Palestine before colonialism detested their violent colonialist counterparts.
“Just because they haven’r been ABLE to doesn’t mean they don’t WANT to.”
The genocidal language thrown by both sides has been going on for thousands of years.
The thing is, you can’t engage in a genocide unless you’re in a position of power first and if you’re continually disenfranchised, you literally cannot engage in genocide.
The will is there, the ability is not.
Let’s ignore the periods where arab/muslims and jews live peacefully and only focus on the periods where they was at war
No it hasn’t. Name a single instance of Jews being genocided in those “thousands of years” which wasn’t when the area was under European control.
Jordan is all over the place. He doesn’t know that not every muslim is an arsb and not rvery arsb is a palestine so his 6000 years of violence is so ridiculous
Again, “the genocidal LANGUAGE” has been thrown around for thousands of years.
The WILL to end Israel is there. The ABILITY, not so much.
See:
https://www.memri.org/reports/fatwa-international-union-muslim-scholars-iums-based-and-funded-qatar-declares-armed-jihad
They call for armed struggle against the occupying entity committing Genocide.
What is genocidal about this?
I am talking about historical actions. Actual persecution of Jews in Palestine under Islamic rule because they could. Not random statements taken out of context.
Again, repeated calls for the elimination of Israel. It’s just as genocidal as the repeated calls for the elimination of Palestine.
Memri was created by Yigal Carmon a former Israeli intelligence officer who opposed oslo accords. Please do better. Thr both side want to destroy each other BS only help isrsel and it’s backers
Then maybe, just maybe, both sides need to stop calling for the destruction of the other.
https://www.cnn.com/2014/11/10/world/meast/iran-annihilate-israel
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran
And before you go down the road of “they were misquoted” or “they didn’t really MEAN that”…
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2006/2/20/iran-clarifies-remarks-on-israel
Yeah, that’s the stance people who want a genocide always say:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/haaretz-today/2024-09-05/ty-article/.highlight/netanyahus-map-shows-israel-from-the-river-to-the-sea-its-no-accident/00000191-c2a8-d09f-ab91-debc90e60000
“No, no, it was just an ‘incorrect translation’.” Horse shit.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-21/ty-article/israel-based-news-outlet-incorrectly-translates-pms-words-leading-to-media-firestorm/0000018d-2bfa-daf5-a1bf-affa764b0000
Yep, the will to end Israel is there. It’s also here.
Remember when the German state was dismantled because it comitted a genocide?
It seems like you believe anti-zionism and anti-semitism is the same thing. One is an ethnic group (technically several, including palestinians, but we all know it usually means jewish people) and the other is a nationality.
Not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.
Let’s dismantle the genocidal state, give displaced palestinians the right to return to their country, try every war criminal and genocidal maniac in an international court and let the Palestinian people decide how the want to run their own fucking country, for once.
Oh, no, anti-semitism and anti-zionism are two very different things. Just how some people can’t separate the difference between American patriotism and white supremacy. Related? Overlapping? Sure, but not the same.
Here’s the problem… The Palestinian people HAVE decided, multiple times, how they want to run their own country and Israel has rejected it multiple times.
The first time, they elected the PLO, Israel declared them terrorists and began a war of aggression.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization
Down to even attempting to assassinate a US Ambassador who dared to recognize and communicate with the PLO:
https://www.wrmea.org/2004-may/israel-s-failed-assassination-attempt-on-u.s.-ambassador-documented.html
The second time they went “You know what? If you’re going to call us terrorists and treat us like terrorists ANYWAY, fine, fuck it, here’s Hamas. Good luck!” Hamas won 74 of the 132 seats in Parliament.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election
Israel now takes the position “there are no innocent Palestinians”.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-poll-62-of-israelis-say-there-are-no-innocent-people-in-gaza
Yet another thing Bush can burn in hell for:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/was-hamas-elected-to-govern-gaza-george-w-bush-2006-palestinian-election.html
But would it have been any different if the 2006 election HAD been shut down the way Israel wanted? Unlikely, because like I say, Israel has been pulling this shit longer than that, Hamas is just their latest excuse.
Israel doesn’t want Palestine to exist, full stop. The feeling is mutual. The only real solution is a forced co-existence which neither side really wants.