What race? You don’t even have the ability to race because you’re sabotaging yourself at every opportunity like you’re Dick Dastardly in Wacky Races. yamcha

The hearing before the committee chaired by Cruz, Commerce, Science, and Transportation, included the usual mishmash of parochial politics, lobbying for traditional space, back slapping, and fawning—at one point, Gold, a Star Trek fan, went so far as to assert that Cruz is the “Captain Kirk” of the US Senate.

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    There’s a documentary from 1972 called Winter Soldier, where veterans of the US invasion of Vietnam attested to their war crimes. Here are a few excerpts of the transcript: http://links.org.au/node/3343

    Consider the following recollection of Vietnam-style “counter-insurgency” warfare, provided by Scott Camil, a former member of the 1st Marines:

    Anybody that was dead was considered a VC. If you killed someone they said, “How do you know he’s a VC?” and the general reply would be, “He’s dead,” and that was sufficient. When we went through the villages and searched people the women would have all their clothes taken off and the men would use their penises to probe them to make sure they didn’t have anything hidden anywhere and this wasremoved but it was done as searching… The main thing was that if an operation was covered by the press there were certain things we weren’t supposed to do, but if there was no press there, it was okay. I saw one case where a woman was shot by a sniper, one of our snipers. When we got up to her she was asking for water. And the Lt. said to kill her. So he ripped off her clothes, they stabbed her in both breasts, they spread-eagled her and shoved an E- tool up her vagina, an entrenching tool, and she was still asking for water. And then they took that out and they used a tree limb and then she was shot.

    An ex-machine gunner with the 1st Air Cavalry detailed the routine violence that accompanied cargo runs on his CH-47 “Chinook” helicopter:

    It was quite usual that there would be a sniper outside a village in the foliage, in the trees, and if we took fire from one sniper we’d return fire on that sniper and then continue to spray the entire village with machine gun fire and M-16 ammunition until we either ran out of ammunition or we had flown so far away from the village that we could no longer reach them with the weapons…The free fire zones were posted on the operation map in the operations tent and this gave us a policy to kill anything that moved within that area.

    Sadistic games at the expense of civilians were used to spice up the day:

    Rotor wash was also used to blow down the huts, literally blow down the villages….So we’d come in and flair on a ship and just blow away a person’s house. Also, the Vietnamese, when they’ve harvested a crop of rice, put it out on these large pans to dry and that harvest is what is supposed to maintain them for that season— what they’re supposed to live on. We’d come in to flair the ship, and let the rotor wash blow the rice, blow their entire supply of food for that harvest over a large area. And then laugh, as we’d watch them running around trying to pick up individual pieces of rice out of a rice paddy.

    While it was unusual for hundreds to be gunned down in a single location (as occurred infamously at My Lai in April 1968), the Winter Soldier testimony confirms that it was nothing out of the ordinary for dozens or scores of civilians to be slaughtered in “search and destroy” missions:

    We moved into a small hamlet, 19 women and children were rounded up as VCS— Viet Cong Suspects— and the lieutenant that rounded them up called the captain on the radio and he asked what should be done with them. The captain simply repeated the order that came down from the colonel that morning. The order that came down from the colonel that morning was to kill anything that moves, which you can take anyway you want to take it… I turned, and I looked in the area. I looked toward where the supposed VCS were, and two men were leading a young girl, approximately 19 years old, very pretty, out of a hootch. She had no clothes on so I assumed she had beenremovedd, which was pretty SOP [Standard Operating Procedure], and she was thrown onto the pile of the 19 women and children, and five men, around the circle, opened up on full automatic with their M-16s. And that was the end of that.

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      Thanks for sharing. Those were sobering tales. I am still not sure why that Pinochet guy was included in your commentary. I hope you do not wish those things on anybody. I was not born during those times. We can not be held responsible any more than Palestine kids can be held responsible for Hamas. Or Israeli kids responsible for the Genocide. Humanity sure could use some help right now.

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        I am still not sure why that Pinochet guy was included in your commentary.

        I am still not sure why you think you get to have opinions about me saying “death to America” when you are this ignorant of history.

        We can not be held responsible

        doubt

        Humanity sure could use some help right now.

        I wonder how we got here? well, better not look into it too closely

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          What do you want us to do? We have had decades of mass protests and racism is worse, human rights violations are worse, and income equality is worse. When you want to get violent and challenge the military that roams our streets now, I’ll start listening. Our ctizens are not as powerful as rulers. The constant judgement does not help. Did you see the Vietnam protests? Did you see the response during Occupy Wall Street or the response to George Floyd? We think of the individual as much as you do. “Othering” people is not productive in this case.

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            What do you want us to do? We have had decades of mass protests and racism is worse, human rights violations are worse, and income equality is worse.

            Sounds like completely ignorable protests are not an effective tool in this regard, and you should instead do something less ignorable.

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              They will just incarcerate everyone. Presently, they are deploying the military to the streets and basically causing martial law. A guy shot a CEO, nothing happened, and he is still in jail. What is the point? Americans have been complaining about Israel’s aid since I can remember, and they still send taxpayers money there even as common people here struggle. That has been the case since I was a kid. This thing that happens that we hate is something that seems to never end. It is basically theft and extortion at this point.

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                They will just incarcerate everyone.

                Ok, so your claim is that doing anything is pointless, then, and nothing that you will do will make any difference.
                And you tried to spin this as an argument for voting for the blue fascists.

                A guy shot a CEO, nothing happened

                A bunch of people started getting their insurance claims approved, so that’s significantly more than what you were aiming for with voting for genocidal fascists.

                Americans have been complaining about Israel’s aid since I can remember

                That’s obviously not true. Even you complained about Hamas resisting genocide here, if I am not misremembering.

                and they still send taxpayers money there even as common people here struggle.

                Also, just going to mention that USians saying ‘taxpayers money’ is funny.

                It is basically theft and extortion at this point.

                Always has been.

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                  Complained of Hamas resisting genocide? We have got a switched conversation somewhere. I guess we are not getting anywhere. All I can do is spread awareness of AIPAC on my end. This I will do.

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                    Complained of Hamas resisting genocide?

                    This is what you said previously:

                    We can not be held responsible any more than Palestine kids can be held responsible for Hamas.

                    There, you equated Hamas resisting a genocide with your empire kidnapping, torturing and killing people in Chile via the puppet state headed by Pinochet.

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        I am still not sure why that Pinochet guy was included in your commentary.

        Pinochet was installed and supported by your empire.

        We can not be held responsible any more than Palestine kids can be held responsible for Hamas.

        Hamas hasn’t done anything atrocious, though, unlike Pinochet.
        If you support the rulers of your empire, you should absolutely be held responsible for things like Pinochet, Park, Pissrael, the countless invasions, coups, the kidnapping and torture, etc.