• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    An apple contains many seeds, but you don’t call each seed a fruit.

    I mean, I knew a strawberry wasn’t a berry, but your counterexample was completely irrelevant.

    Edit:
    When people downvote but nobody responds, I have no idea what people are downvoting about.
    Nothing I said was inaccurate, and it illustrated why their example was inapplicable, so what do downvotes mean here?

    • whaleross@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      You are being downvoted because you argue your personal interpretation against a factual scientific classification.

      If the experts in the field have concluded that a tiny fruit that contains a tiny seed is still a fruit, then arguing against it is inaccurate.

      Unless you too are an expert in the field and have some substantial arguments otherwise that are more relevant that a gotcha.

      • blarghly@lemmy.world
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        10 hours ago

        I mean, it is totally valid for a layperson to criticize scientific classification since, after all, it is just a definition. Facts derived from definition can be true or false, but just putting something in a box doesn’t make the box true. It’s just the box the thing happened to be put in.

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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        11 hours ago

        That’d be a really great point, if that was even anywhere close to what I said in the comment that got down voted.

        So what am I to take from this reply? That people on Lemmy are functionally illiterate? That they can’t distinguish between criticism of an example with criticism of an argument?

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          In response to calling the dry fruit that contains a single seed a seed, they gave a counterexample where we clearly don’t call fruits that contain a seed a seed.

          You called that irrelevant and rebutted with we also don’t call the seeds inside a fruit fruits. Okay… What? How is that relevant?

        • whaleross@lemmy.world
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          8 hours ago

          And this, kids, is what it looks like when somebody has their feelings hurt about nonsense drama that they created themselves.

    • Soggy@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      “Each containing a single seed inside” does not mean “those are the seeds” and I provided a counter-example to illustrate my point.

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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        11 hours ago

        Ah I see. That makes a bit more sense.

        But I still don’t think that’s a great company the example, because I believe what they were actually saying was that just because it contains a see doesn’t make it a fruit, in the same way that if you see a shelled peanut with the husk on, you wouldn’t call it a whole fruit.

        I know they’re wrong, but I don’t think that your counter example addressed what their confusion was.

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          4 hours ago

          if you see a shelled peanut with the husk on, you wouldn’t call it a whole fruit.

          You reasonably could, though. “Fruit” has different meanings (with significant overlap) when speaking culinarily versus botanically. Corn, for example, is a fruit and a vegetable and a seed and a cereal grain depending on context.

    • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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      10 hours ago

      It means “I’m dumb. There’s a lot of dumb people in this comm. And mods aren’t doing their job”

      Edit: see those down votes. Even more dumb people who don’t know what the down vote button is for…