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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 个月前

Zelensky rejects Trump’s peace terms

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Zelensky rejects Trump’s peace terms

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 个月前
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The Ukrainian leader hopes that with the support of Western nations, Kiev can “force Russia into a real peace”
  • bubblybubbles@lemmy.mlOP
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    Ur just parroting what western “media” wants you to. RT doesn’t cave to western narratives so the recourse for western “media” is to slander it as “propaganda”

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      just to putin’s narratives

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        Are they mre factual than western narratives? Yes. Everything is more factual than western narratives, which get made up by zenz&co

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      Removed by mod

      • doben@lemmy.wtf
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        Every large state actor uses media as a propaganda tool, I‘m sure you know that. Blocking yourself to only get fed one version is … well, how about you build some media literacy and sharpen your critical thinking skills, instead. That way you‘ll be able to really decide for yourself. How long did western media parrot IDF propaganda? Oh, they still do? Damn ol‘ reality!

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          Multiple points of view are useful, the Kremlin’s mouthpiece is not. If you practiced that media literacy you’re talking about, you’d understand the difference.

          And the blocking myself is to be polite so I don’t keep scolding you goofs for choosing the dumbest possible source of “information.”

          Believe me, I know how to find propoganda like RT or trump’s truth social feed, there’s just no value to be gained from them.

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            Yes yes, I wasn‘t very clear here. I didn‘t argue for RT, idgaf about them. I‘m talking about blocking lemmy instances, because of ideologic dissonances. GL, fellow goof.

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          Right, so you’d ignore the NYT on Isreal. Yeah? Or when Al Jazeera defends Qatar.

          Why don’t you feel the same way about Russia Today… on Russia?

          Reaching a conclusion is not a failure of critical thinking skills; it’s what they’re for. You’re not just allowed to recognize consistent bullshit - you’re expected to.

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            I was especially talking about blocking lemmy instances, but wasn‘t very clear on that. I‘m with you. Their conclusion was to block the goof‘s instance. By your logic then, they‘d have to stop consuming media period.

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            If you really don’t understand the difference between a news organization with which you disagree and a state actor in all but name, that’s on you.

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              It’s a state actor in name.

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                This feels like one of my trailer park boys exchanges:

                Julian: Ricky, do you know how stupid you sound right now?

                Ricky: Yes I do!

                Thanks for the giggles.

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                  You might wanna skim this thread for a second read on what you think I think.

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        If reality had western bias then Ukraine would’ve won the war by now.

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          Show me you don’t read without telling me so.

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            Unlike you, not only do I read western media extensively, I also have reading comprehension to understand what it’s been saying.

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              Oddly enough, saying you comprehend different from actual comprehension.

              Most Western media has been “well, Ukraine’s fucked.” “Long term, can Ukraine survive this war?”

              Are you getting confused between individual battlefield/operational success versus the strategic reality?

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                For three whole years western media promised that Russia was on the verge of collapse both militarily and economically. They said that Russia is running out of weapons, that Russian troops fight with shovels, that Russian economy is in shambles. Turns out that literally all of it was complete and utter bullshit. Now we’re finally entering the stages where it’s no longer possible to pretend that the west can possibly win the war, and the real world is finally starting to slowly seep through the walls of the media bubble western media created.

                The only one deeply confused here is you apparently.

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                  Lol, show me an article that said Russia was on the brink of military collapse and I’ll show you an article you’ve misunderstood (or some non reputable journalism.)

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                    Here’s a glimpse of the alternate reality western media has been selling while you’ve been living in a cave

                    • https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/armies-and-autocrats-why-putins-military-failed/
                    • https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/13/putin-russia-military-spent-ukraine/
                    • https://cepa.org/article/russias-military-losing-the-will-to-fight/
                    • https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russian-has-lost-almost-90-of-its-prewar-army-u-s-intelligence-says-2e0372ab
                    • https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-losing-soldiers-fast-as-can-recruit-new-ukraine-isw-2023-12
                    • https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/05/15/russia-lost-a-third-of-its-forces-in-ukraine-now-its-losing-the-war/
                    • https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
                    • https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/07/russia-ukraine-putin-collapse-disintegration-civil-war-empire/
                    • https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics/russia-troop-losses-us-intelligence-assessment
                    • https://www.prio.org/comments/646
                    • https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/putin-last-stand-russia-defeat
                    • https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/15/thomas-graham-russia-ukraine-00121247
                    • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68364924
                    • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-63247287
                    • https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-running-short-of-long-range-missiles-ukraine-war/
                    • https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-doesnt-have-enough-troops-to-defeat-ukraine-and-defend-russia/
                    • https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/07/07/russia-is-running-low-on-tanks-so-why-are-a-thousand-first-generation-t-72s-still-sitting-in-storage/
                    • https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-russian-empire-is-collapsing-like-its-soviet-predecessor/
                    • https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/2025-year-russia-runs-out-tanks-fight-ukraine-211947

                    can’t wait to have these articles explained to me by a genuine western media understander

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            Some people are never worth the time. Block and breathe easy.

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              Good words to remember!

              On this one, it’s a little fun to kinda bully someone being a silly Billy. But I’ve got a note on him so if I encounter in the wild, I just ignore, giggle and move on.

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        https://archive.org/details/michael-parenti-inventing-reality-the-politics-of-the-mass-media-1986-st.-martins-press_202012/mode/1up

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