• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    That is just an example. Building houses (starting with producing concrete and bricks), fixing cars, producing electricity, water, gas, renewables - the claim about “no need to work” is a complete nonsense.

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      11 days ago

      Also service jobs like taking care of people who needs it, much can be done with robots and “ai” but fuck if I’m going die with only “ai” by my side. As much as I hate other humans, they’re needed.

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        much can be done with robots and “ai” but fuck if I’m going die with only “ai” by my side

        I hate to break it to you, but you better start saving if you want a good human next to you when you die. I did palliative care for developmentally delayed adults, $12/hr in 2018. Fifty cents more than minimum wage. I was watching people die, and I couldn’t even take a vacation.

        I went from being a caring person, to wishing people would die faster, to wishing I could die myself because that was the only form of a ‘break’ I could think of getting. Drove into traffic, got t-boned by an SUV going 55mph, and I think the month in the hospital is still the most relaxed I’ve ever been.

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          Won’t be necessary, my family tradition is drinking our self to death and if that don’t work we die of totally preventable types of cancer 🙃 but yea I’m saving and investing as much as I can, around 20%, not for me but for my fiancée so she can keep up the living.

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        11 days ago

        You’re not going to have much of a say in that decision unless “the market” has within it a selection of nursing homes that use and don’t use AI/robotics.

        I seriously doubt that will be the case though. Pretty much any for profit business that can justify the initial expense of the robotics/AI, will do so as labor is a large expense that all businesses seek to eliminate.

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      you’d be surprised but building houses is less of a trouble than you’d think.

      the first big cities were built in late medieval age / early modern times. the great fire of london wiped out large parts of the city in 1666, up to which point most housings were built of wood. Yes, wood. After that, the city decided to rebuild the city in bricks and stones to guard against future fires. That was the first big cities on earth. (apart from some luxury cities for show-off in antiquity).

      since then, almost all big cities have been built from scratch within the last 200 years. It was this rapid growth, together with an exponentially growing population, that caused all the demand for human work. Now, birth rates are declining in most of the northern hemisphere, and the population is gonna decline starting sometime around 2040. That means that you need less houses year after year, and if you completely stop building new houses, you’d probably still have enough after that, because old houses and city apartments tend to be freed up by old people dying.

      So, no, building houses is not a big trouble. Maintaining houses (that we already have) is significantly less work than building new housing, and we already have a massive number of houses standing around today.