You say “we” when in reality it’s mostly Christian fascists and rural dipshits that voted overwhelmingly for this orange New York billionaire turd to cuck them.
You’d be surprised how many minorities voted against their interests as well. I have religious family who supported this. “Latinas for Trump” was also a thing. The stupidity of the human race is really something.
There are plenty of arguments that we aren’t all bad and so forth. But, end of the day (and probably country), we couldn’t be bothered to even go out and vote against him because “the Democrats didn’t earn my vote”.
The Democrats had control of these files for the previous four years and didnt release them either. Just because Republicans are piles of shit doesn’t mean that the Democratic party are the good guys and NPR has already recently broken down the voting demographics and determined that the Dems who sat out the election wouldn’t have changed the outcome one bit had they voted.
Ongoing cases against whom exactly? Epstein has been dead for 6 years now and Maxwell is already in prison. The information wasn’t released because it implicates people from both parties and their wealthy donors I’m sure. We’re just seeing a dog and pony show here and nothing will ever come of it.
Was it? Were they actually votes, or were they “votes”. Those fuckers had too much access to the whole system to not have fucked around with it. I am not convinced you had a fair and free election in any sense of the word. Easy for me to say as a Canadian, but it was all pretty suspect to me. He won every single swing state? Really…
What you are suggesting would have required a massively coordinated effort across all 50 states and NOBODY has talked about that.
Contrast that with how one tiff with musk has republicans outright calling him a child raper.
Do I think there was interference? Yes. It is called twitter and social media in general. But this desperate belief that there was some massive conspiracy to undermine every machine and NOBODY is talking about it is right up there with “9-11 was staged”.
And when the votes are actually broken down by demographics? Yeah… they line up. Mostly men and religious people.
Then why did musk have access to the voting machines? I never said every machine either. Not to mention the voting access restrictions and what not, this goes way beyond bots on social media, and no one wants to talk about it because the implications are so vast and nefarious people turn a blind eye to it because they don’t want to upset the status quo.
I am not aware of musk having access to voting machines en masse during the Biden administration but, sure, let’s roll with that because it does not matter.
Do you honestly think musk, on the same k-hole where he called trump a pedophile rapist, wouldn’t have bragged about having stolen the election for him? And, we are to believe that elon fucking musk single handedly hacked the entire country while not playing Path of Exile? Or are you now assuming the twenty employees at spacex are so immensely loyal to him that NONE OF THEM would have narced for a book deal?
And yes. Voter suppression is a thing and it always will be so long as we have a system fundamentally built around gerrymandering and the electoral college. But demographics analyses show that even black men have increasingly skewed republican (nowhere near as much as other demographics but still).
If this were a super close election that had come down to a single battleground state? Sure. But it wasn’t. It was a fucking landslide. So unless we are assuming that musk and big balls are super 1337 hackers who managed to not only hack every single election in America (again, under the Biden administration) AND never once said a peep about it when they blab about EVERYTHING else… Oh, and they also hacked all the polling and demographic analysis data to make it look like they didn’t hack anything.
I will not spend 2 minutes (let alone 13) watching the guy whose claim to fame is he fell in a bonfire break the news on a massive nation wide conspiracy any more than I would joe rogan or, hell, RFK probably has a podcast still.
If there is actual information, provide a reputable source. Not a guy with two seasons of a sitcom on fox and a couple comedy central specials that got increasingly depressing.
People want to believe there was some magic conspiracy that, somehow, absolutely NOBODY has talked about when trump can’t even go a decade without talking about wanting to bang his own daughter. AND they managed to pull it off, not when trump was actually in charge, but four years later when Biden was.
Because the alternative is realizing just how hateful this world is. And having to question if maybe “I am against genocide and won’t talk about anything else” and “we should have run bernie instead” might not have been particularly helpful in encouraging liberals and progressives to actually fucking vote.
You see it any time personal accountability becomes a thing. The republicans flocked to qanon because it meant they were actually special and great and it was everyone else who was an evil jewish space lizard or whatever the fuck. Not that they are odious hate fueled shitheads. And… apparently lefties really wish they were Dave and Tommy. Rather than acknowledging that… yeah, glazing liz cheney ain’t it. But maybe villifying anyone who can provide progress for not being Progressive enough isn’t it either.
Just like it was really weird that nobody was talking about shoving horse medication up our asses to cure covid.
Here is the thing. if you approach the data we have from the perspective of wanting to find something weird? You will. EVERYBODY has been clowning on nate silver (long before he became a parody of himself) because they don’t understand statistics or sample sizes. But when you actually look at the demographics who claimed to have voted and general polling… it paints a very reasonable and incredibly depressing picture of how trump won.
Americans don’t like brown people. This, somehow, isn’t just the white Americans.
Historically religious groups (e.g. Latinos) favor republicans.
Older generations tend to skew conservative AND actually go vote
But hey. I would LOVE to see an excuse that isn’t just “we are a country full of racist misogynists who just want to hurt people and people who can’t even be bothered to vote in their own interests”. But if the only person listening to the truth is a guy who has made a career out of being open with his struggles with mental illness (both genetic and experienced) who has been going further and further off the deep end since the mid 00s? Yeah… there is probably a reason other people aren’t listening to The Truth.
To be clear. I actually really like(d) Christopher Titus. I think he did an excellent job of using humor to make people acknowledge mental illness, toxic masulinity, and even domestic abuse. And he somehow did it on god damned fox. But he has also very clearly had troubles over the years and it was evident even from just the tone of his humor during his stand up specials.
And just because someone has a podcast doesn’t mean they are qualified to speak to… anything. All it means is that they have a microphone and someone explained to them that they could use stuff they would already buy or do to lower their tax burden.
The Speaker of the House just had to shut down his chamber of Congress early because people are asking him questions he doesn’t want to answer, and that’s a sign of mastery to you? I think this looks more like the beginning of the end.
Of course, that’s probably the most dangerous phase of this because they’re going to lash out like cornered animals, and what comes next could be even worse than this, so I’m not celebrating here, but calling Donald fuckin Trump master of anything just doesn’t square with reality to me.
I want to believe. But this is going to require something to stay in the zeitgeist until the next time congress is in session which is generally the start of September.
In the meantime. We have a bunch of random files getting thrown to conspiracy theorists, cane sugar coca cola, likely at least two or three more rounds of tariffs and at least one more threat of war, and… apparently threatening to bring Obama up on treason charges.
At the best of times people are deeply stupid. Folk will forget epstein was even a thing by September.
Its all the same enemy. America has fallen. There are new masters now and we are naive sitting ducklings in the palm of their hand.
And the darkest truth is that there is no way to overcome. Their war machine owns humanity. And we led them to their power with pride and ignorance.
You say “we” when in reality it’s mostly Christian fascists and rural dipshits that voted overwhelmingly for this orange New York billionaire turd to cuck them.
This is the "not all of us German’s in 1942 were Nazis " defence.
You’d be surprised how many minorities voted against their interests as well. I have religious family who supported this. “Latinas for Trump” was also a thing. The stupidity of the human race is really something.
It was still a plurality of votes.
There are plenty of arguments that we aren’t all bad and so forth. But, end of the day (and probably country), we couldn’t be bothered to even go out and vote against him because “the Democrats didn’t earn my vote”.
The Democrats had control of these files for the previous four years and didnt release them either. Just because Republicans are piles of shit doesn’t mean that the Democratic party are the good guys and NPR has already recently broken down the voting demographics and determined that the Dems who sat out the election wouldn’t have changed the outcome one bit had they voted.
I’m confused how anyone can release anything when there are ongoing cases and investigations into all this.
Seeing what we are I don’t think anybody in the cases will be handled fairly or anyone in the wrong will be brought to justice…
Ongoing cases against whom exactly? Epstein has been dead for 6 years now and Maxwell is already in prison. The information wasn’t released because it implicates people from both parties and their wealthy donors I’m sure. We’re just seeing a dog and pony show here and nothing will ever come of it.
I thought there were still cases pending against her, but I’m sure there is a trove of other cases they could start.
If I am wrong i will retract the comment.
I would rather see real movement in cases against people involved, but I don’t think we will see that from the current people in charge.
Was it? Were they actually votes, or were they “votes”. Those fuckers had too much access to the whole system to not have fucked around with it. I am not convinced you had a fair and free election in any sense of the word. Easy for me to say as a Canadian, but it was all pretty suspect to me. He won every single swing state? Really…
What you are suggesting would have required a massively coordinated effort across all 50 states and NOBODY has talked about that.
Contrast that with how one tiff with musk has republicans outright calling him a child raper.
Do I think there was interference? Yes. It is called twitter and social media in general. But this desperate belief that there was some massive conspiracy to undermine every machine and NOBODY is talking about it is right up there with “9-11 was staged”.
And when the votes are actually broken down by demographics? Yeah… they line up. Mostly men and religious people.
Then why did musk have access to the voting machines? I never said every machine either. Not to mention the voting access restrictions and what not, this goes way beyond bots on social media, and no one wants to talk about it because the implications are so vast and nefarious people turn a blind eye to it because they don’t want to upset the status quo.
I am not aware of musk having access to voting machines en masse during the Biden administration but, sure, let’s roll with that because it does not matter.
Do you honestly think musk, on the same k-hole where he called trump a pedophile rapist, wouldn’t have bragged about having stolen the election for him? And, we are to believe that elon fucking musk single handedly hacked the entire country while not playing Path of Exile? Or are you now assuming the twenty employees at spacex are so immensely loyal to him that NONE OF THEM would have narced for a book deal?
And yes. Voter suppression is a thing and it always will be so long as we have a system fundamentally built around gerrymandering and the electoral college. But demographics analyses show that even black men have increasingly skewed republican (nowhere near as much as other demographics but still).
If this were a super close election that had come down to a single battleground state? Sure. But it wasn’t. It was a fucking landslide. So unless we are assuming that musk and big balls are super 1337 hackers who managed to not only hack every single election in America (again, under the Biden administration) AND never once said a peep about it when they blab about EVERYTHING else… Oh, and they also hacked all the polling and demographic analysis data to make it look like they didn’t hack anything.
There’s decent evidence it was stolen from us. https://youtu.be/CH6agG9A2GA
… You linked to a comedian who has publicly had multiple nervous breakdowns and has a podcast.
But yes. Your glorified facebook post is the smoking gun.
So the information that he was provided to by the guy, was it irrelevant??
I will not spend 2 minutes (let alone 13) watching the guy whose claim to fame is he fell in a bonfire break the news on a massive nation wide conspiracy any more than I would joe rogan or, hell, RFK probably has a podcast still.
If there is actual information, provide a reputable source. Not a guy with two seasons of a sitcom on fox and a couple comedy central specials that got increasingly depressing.
It’s crazy you are being down voted for having a logical approach to what may possibly be complete bullshit.
Not really.
People want to believe there was some magic conspiracy that, somehow, absolutely NOBODY has talked about when trump can’t even go a decade without talking about wanting to bang his own daughter. AND they managed to pull it off, not when trump was actually in charge, but four years later when Biden was.
Because the alternative is realizing just how hateful this world is. And having to question if maybe “I am against genocide and won’t talk about anything else” and “we should have run bernie instead” might not have been particularly helpful in encouraging liberals and progressives to actually fucking vote.
You see it any time personal accountability becomes a thing. The republicans flocked to qanon because it meant they were actually special and great and it was everyone else who was an evil jewish space lizard or whatever the fuck. Not that they are odious hate fueled shitheads. And… apparently lefties really wish they were Dave and Tommy. Rather than acknowledging that… yeah, glazing liz cheney ain’t it. But maybe villifying anyone who can provide progress for not being Progressive enough isn’t it either.
It doesn’t seem like bullshit, it’s observations based on real data.
What the guy was pointing out was pretty interesting and suspicious. Weird things happened down ballot and no one is talking about it.
Just like it was really weird that nobody was talking about shoving horse medication up our asses to cure covid.
Here is the thing. if you approach the data we have from the perspective of wanting to find something weird? You will. EVERYBODY has been clowning on nate silver (long before he became a parody of himself) because they don’t understand statistics or sample sizes. But when you actually look at the demographics who claimed to have voted and general polling… it paints a very reasonable and incredibly depressing picture of how trump won.
https://catalist.us/whathappened2024/ is a good write up of things but it mostly speaks to what we all kind of knew going in:
But hey. I would LOVE to see an excuse that isn’t just “we are a country full of racist misogynists who just want to hurt people and people who can’t even be bothered to vote in their own interests”. But if the only person listening to the truth is a guy who has made a career out of being open with his struggles with mental illness (both genetic and experienced) who has been going further and further off the deep end since the mid 00s? Yeah… there is probably a reason other people aren’t listening to The Truth.
To be clear. I actually really like(d) Christopher Titus. I think he did an excellent job of using humor to make people acknowledge mental illness, toxic masulinity, and even domestic abuse. And he somehow did it on god damned fox. But he has also very clearly had troubles over the years and it was evident even from just the tone of his humor during his stand up specials.
And just because someone has a podcast doesn’t mean they are qualified to speak to… anything. All it means is that they have a microphone and someone explained to them that they could use stuff they would already buy or do to lower their tax burden.
The Speaker of the House just had to shut down his chamber of Congress early because people are asking him questions he doesn’t want to answer, and that’s a sign of mastery to you? I think this looks more like the beginning of the end.
Of course, that’s probably the most dangerous phase of this because they’re going to lash out like cornered animals, and what comes next could be even worse than this, so I’m not celebrating here, but calling Donald fuckin Trump master of anything just doesn’t square with reality to me.
I want to believe. But this is going to require something to stay in the zeitgeist until the next time congress is in session which is generally the start of September.
In the meantime. We have a bunch of random files getting thrown to conspiracy theorists, cane sugar coca cola, likely at least two or three more rounds of tariffs and at least one more threat of war, and… apparently threatening to bring Obama up on treason charges.
At the best of times people are deeply stupid. Folk will forget epstein was even a thing by September.