How do y’all cope with this

  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Same way you deal with commanders in chief of real armies - just ask JFK… or any of these guys for that matter.

    Asymmetrical class warfare - particularly when you have the benefit of overwhelming numerical superiority while being dispersed through the broad population is devastatingly effective. There’s a reason the best funded military in the world is consistently drawn into quagmires with villagers brandishing soviet-era small arms and improvised explosives.

    • trailing9@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Have you ignored the part about drones in my comment?

      Look up why South Vietnam failed. Watch the training videos of the Afghan army. There was no will to win, for whatever reason.

      If you have overwhelming numerical superiority, you don’t need war, you can vote.

      • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Have you ignored the part about drones in my comment?

        No - because it was posted after my comment in a different thread - I’m not reviewing your entire post history before responding, let alone travelling through time to do so. If you’re going to be snide, be less stupid about it please.

        The Viet Cong and Taliban tied up the US army for decades, costing them trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives. You don’t need military superiority to pose a mortal or financial threat to billionaires.

        • trailing9@lemmy.ml
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          Sorry, my fault. I thought you were replying there. I will try to be less stupid.

          JFK and the other politicians are no billionaires.

          The Viet Cong and Taliban made billionaires. The tax payers had to pay.

          Now add the drones that can do a JFK on every rebellion leader.

          I think it is easier to use votes to solve problems.

          • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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            JFK and the other politicians are no billionaires.

            Correct, but JFK didn’t have a paltry security detail - he had the protection of the entire US defence and intelligence apparatus, and how effective was that against one man and his rifle? The others are variations in the same theme, some more relevant than others.

            The Viet Cong and Taliban made billionaires. The tax payers had to pay.

            They also used their meagre resources to cause massive problems and expense for the US.

            The point of all this is that all the money in the world only grants these people limited protections.

            I strongly favour democratic solutions where they’re available (revolution without sustainable preparation is where communist regimes turn autocratic almost every time), but understand the democracy-breaking political influence billionaires are able to buy. If a couple of your Kochs and Murdochs start meeting grisly ends, the rest of their ilk might get the message, stand aside and let democracy run its course for once.

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              1 year ago

              Gated communities. Politicians die because they have to meet their voters.

              Since the US has global influence, politicians and voters are influenced globally. Koch and Murdoch are just standing out.

              Voters have to wise up. I don’t believe that a random group of assassins can solve the problem.

              Rome ended in tyranny because even the educated elite wasn’t wise enough. It’s difficult but we have to be better. Assassinations are a distraction from that problem that needs to be solved.

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                1 year ago

                Do you honestly think I’m suggesting that a couple of dead billionaires solves the problem?

                If this is still your impression after pre-reading my last paragraph, I’m not sure what to say.

                If it’s not, why the strawman? These are actual problems we all face - how are we to solve them if we’re lying to dismiss solutions we don’t like?

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                  1 year ago

                  I focused on

                  where they’re available

                  Which paragraph? I am sorry but I had the impression that you see assassinations as solution. I am also not sure what the strawman is to you.

                  Let’s step back. What’s your approach?

                  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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                    1 year ago

                    To answer both questions…

                    I strongly favour democratic solutions where they’re available (revolution without sustainable preparation is where communist regimes turn autocratic almost every time), but understand the democracy-breaking political influence billionaires are able to buy. If a couple of your Kochs and Murdochs start meeting grisly ends, the rest of their ilk might get the message, stand aside and let democracy run its course for once.

                    It’s not how the real progress happens, but it’s certainly likely to help things along.

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        1 year ago

        Did we have drones in afghanistan? Because the US sure did have trouble there. How many people are in Afghanistan? How many are in the US?

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          1 year ago

          Afghanistan was pre-chatGPT. We are not there yet but soon, drones will operate automatically. Numbers won’t matter.