The Republican package would slash taxes, boost spending on immigration enforcement and the military, and impose steep cuts to Medicaid, SNAP and clean energy funding.
That’s absolutely not true. Trump got 74 million votes in 2020 and 77 million votes in 2024. If he got the 2020 numbers he would have lost the popular vote
You’re correct. I’m sorry, I had my numbers screwed up in my head.
Year
Trump
Democrat
2016
63 million (46.1%)
66 million (48.2%)
2020
74 million (46.8%)
81 million (51.3%)
2024
77 million (49.8%)
75 million (48.3%)
These are the numbers from Wikipedia. It still fucks me up that Trump increased his vote margins, even to the point of winning the popular vote. It’s probably going to haunt me to my grave and be a thing that I deeply wish wasn’t true, but there it is.
What I ought to have said was that comparing 2024 to 2016, it’s not that Democratic support fell off precipitously, but rather that a lot of people showed up in 2020 to vote for Biden, and then a lot of them stayed home in 2024.
Trump gained some, and that fucking sucks, but apathy and disengagement is a big factor in what got him back in the White House.
When asked how they would have voted, people eligible to vote who did not do so were fairly evenly split in their preferences: 44% said they would have supported Trump, while 40% said they would have backed Harris.
True. Don’t forget longstanding disenfranchisement, gerrymandering, and voter intimidation. It’s also true democrats ‘vote for us, we’re not republicans’ is the laziest campaign slogan and the most their billionaire mega donors will allow. But republican wannabe facists have been stacking the deck for a long time with no repercussions. No surprise it also led us here.
Also Trump has a cult of personality which due to its nature is able to more or less grow continuously. It’s growth between 2020 and 2024 can be easily explained by folks who were kids during his first term and are surrounded by kin and kith who are also in the personality cult.
Someone who was 10 in 2016 was 14 in 2020 and were 18 in 2024.
That’s absolutely not true. Trump got 74 million votes in 2020 and 77 million votes in 2024. If he got the 2020 numbers he would have lost the popular vote
You’re correct. I’m sorry, I had my numbers screwed up in my head.
These are the numbers from Wikipedia. It still fucks me up that Trump increased his vote margins, even to the point of winning the popular vote. It’s probably going to haunt me to my grave and be a thing that I deeply wish wasn’t true, but there it is.
What I ought to have said was that comparing 2024 to 2016, it’s not that Democratic support fell off precipitously, but rather that a lot of people showed up in 2020 to vote for Biden, and then a lot of them stayed home in 2024.
Trump gained some, and that fucking sucks, but apathy and disengagement is a big factor in what got him back in the White House.
Not really, since modeling increasing the turnout actually still gives a Trump win
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/
True. Don’t forget longstanding disenfranchisement, gerrymandering, and voter intimidation. It’s also true democrats ‘vote for us, we’re not republicans’ is the laziest campaign slogan and the most their billionaire mega donors will allow. But republican wannabe facists have been stacking the deck for a long time with no repercussions. No surprise it also led us here.
Also Trump has a cult of personality which due to its nature is able to more or less grow continuously. It’s growth between 2020 and 2024 can be easily explained by folks who were kids during his first term and are surrounded by kin and kith who are also in the personality cult.
Someone who was 10 in 2016 was 14 in 2020 and were 18 in 2024.