“Well they aren’t concentration camps, but even if they are, they aren’t that bad, but even if they are that bad, those people deserve it, and even if they were innocent, there are a lot who aren’t, and even if they are all innocent, we need to exterminate brown people”
Alligator Auschwitz.
AI slop booooo
This might get me a lot of downvotes, but when ai ‘draws’ text it generates each individual letter which makes them a bit wiggly and often not on a straight line. The fact these are all grammatically correct sentences all on perfectly straight lines give me the impression this isn’t raw output. Could be that the image was made with text later added on top though, but even the most advanced ai generators aren’t this consistent with text.
Could be that just the icons are AI generated, or the whole image was fed through an AI upscaler/enhancer to sharpen the image.
Could be that just the icons are AI generated
This is entirely possible. Could also be the whole image is ai generated, but the maker manually inserted the text (not so hard to erase the text ai would have generated) because AI messed up. You can for example first ask chatgpt to generate a text, but if you than ask it to generate an image with that text it will be all wobly and full of errors because of how the generation process works.
an AI upscaler/enhancer to sharpen the image.
There is no automatic fix of the first problem, because the ai spits out shapes that look like letters but aren’t.
Nah, nah, I’m not saying that the text was AI image generated in any way. I just suspect that the image (after the text was put in place by a human) was fed through some enhancer/upscaler. I remember seeing a comic a while ago that reeked of AI, but it turns out that it was a fully human-made comic fed through some AI cartoon enhancer (for… some reason? The original looked fine. Maybe to steal credit?).
I do doubt that any of what I described is the case, though. I feel like the text would look less crisp if so.
I do wholeheartedly believe the icons were generated separately still.
Meh idk. The kerning still looks weird on some of the words.
Guess you never used image editing software if you think they do perfect kerning
yeah that’s a human problem
That “”““human””“” skeleton in the fourth item gave it away immediately. Now that I look at it further, “Isolation & Surveillance” and a picture of a megaphone??? “Fear as a tool of control” with a lightning bolt in someone’s head??? Did OP even read their slop before vomiting it here?
The Star of David is fucked up, too. You’d think that would be an easy shape to get right.
Also the color of the background. For some reason genAI uses that a lot.
Yeah I’ve seen so much AI slop with the yellow tinge. It’s kinda hilarious that we’re watching AI model collapse in real time but the bubble keeps growing
I reckon that it probably began with a lot of the training material being scans of aged paper.
I’ve also heard theories that its related to lots of “golden hour” photos but ultimately (and this is one of the significant problems with machine learning) the specific cause is unknowable due to the nature of the software
Wow. It certainly passes the test for first viewing. I fell for it until I read this comment and cannot unsee it now. Good reminder how fast propaganda of any subject can propagate, I guess
i had trouble believing this was AI because why would someone use genAI to make, like, 6 clip art images and a wall of text
You should see the commenter that I blocked under mine. Apparently, some people don’t have the technological means to go to PowerPoint Online and Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V some stock images, but they do have the means to prompt slop by mail. Silly me for assuming privilege.
What’s wrong with the skeleton? It’s stylised of course as these sorts of icons tend to be, but generally correct. Pelvis, spine, ribs, head, etc.
The megaphone seems like a very good way to evoke images of an abusive overseer controlling the camp’s prisoners using technology of the modern day, an effective image for a section on monitoring and control, no?
There is no standardised symbol for fear within a person’s mind, so again, a stylised symbol showing a lightning bolt is fine. Especially given that it is likely there on purpose - think shocks. Shocks of a different kind you may receive under an evil oppressive prisoner camp system (imagine the sudden shock in ones mind as a guard shouts or lashes out at you, I would certainly consider symbolising that in this manner).
It’s as if you’ve never looked at anything anyone’s made with simple clipart and the like before, and assume everything must be extremely deep and custom designed by experts?
Even if this were made with the help of AI, I don’t see the message being any less valid, just because the person didn’t go download an image editor to a PC, learn how to use it, learn how to import SVG icons and research for the most appropriate ones, build the image and export it appropriately, etc.
Not everybody is as skilled or capable as you or I may be in producing something that we might consider simple. Heck, some people only have a smartphone, not everybody has the luxury of owning a PC and proper software, nor the time or inclination to learn such tools.
The message in this image is conveyed very well, and is relevant to the current fascist regime’s actions in the USA (and indeed is a universally important message).
If you want to suggest it’s bad (or “slop”, as you so evocatively put it) just because you don’t like the image creator used to put it to print, well, that’s a weird hill to die on, to be honest.
You better hope your country never duplicates the USA’s slide into fascism, or you yourself may one day end up in a camp… or worse. How quick to attack the people trying to raise awareness of these abuses of human rights then, I wonder?
Someone owns stock in AI 💀💀
that’s a weird hill to die on, to be honest.
Welcome to Lemmy (and Reddit).
Makes me wonder how many memes are “tainted” with oldschool ML before generative AI was common vernacular, like edge enhancement, translation and such.
A lot? What’s the threshold before it’s considered bad?
Well those things aren’t generative AI so there isn’t much of an issue with them
What about ‘edge enhancing’ NNs like NNEDI3? Or GANs that absolutely ‘paint in’ inferred details from their training? How big is the model before it becomes ‘generative?’
What about a deinterlacer network that’s been trained on other interlaced footage?
My point is there is an infinitely fine gradient through time between good old MS paint/bilinear upscaling and ChatGPT (or locally runnable txt2img diffusion models). Even now, there’s an array of modern ML-based ‘editors’ that are questionably generative most probably don’t know are working in the background.
Id say if there is training beforehand, then its “generative AI”
What’s wrong with the skeleton is, that it has a second head where an ass should be.
I think it is a pelvis on the left as others have said. I have to admit though I thought I was looking at two skulls, probably because I was biased to look from left to right so I just accepted the left one as a skull and then the right skull actually looks like a skull. My first thought though was that it was an abstract depiction of overcrowding, so it was intentional to show two skeletons pushed close together.
The rib cage is also way too long, and wtf is that bone under the ass head
That’s a pelvis.
A pelvis with 4 holes.
EDIT: and the small holes are above the bigger hole.
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Those are speed holes.
Looks more like a pelvis than a head to me. 🤷
So the opposite of trump where there is a second asshole in his face
nobody is gonna be reading all that lmao
What, you dont have an extra set of ribs in your hip bone?
Thank you, I thought I was being too paranoid
The star’s geometry is all wrong.
Edit: original comment here was a reply to a different comment so removed it here. But now I commented here, what made you doubt about it? I ask because I don’t think there is AI yet that can output text that is this consistent.
This is a picture that a friend of mine took on a trip to England. This was probably made by OpenAI’s latest model, because this is also one of many abominable Ghibli images that were probably part of some kind of meme. You can see that the text quality is infinitely better than before. It spells, displays and even puts it all into perspective correctly. However, it seems to only really be able to output a few different fonts, which you can even spot in the post that we’re commenting on. The slop mutates ever closer to slipping past your defenses…
EDIT: Bonus picture, I can never see Ghibli anything anymore without this coming to mind
This is fucking stupid. It’s when you concentrate as group in a place. That fucking simple. And it’s, it’s always horrible
Concerts stress me out too with all that people concentrated in a small place, but I think I would be more stressed in Auschwitz.
Kyle, I really thought it’s a camp where you learn to concentrate.
No no no, it’s where you learn to make partially dehydrated juice that you can freeze for easy storage and just add water to when you’re ready to make it.
So is a prison a concentration camp? Is a jail a concentration camp?
Oh, you mean Alligator Auschwitz that was just built in florida?
Auschwitz was an extermination camp, not just a concentration camp though.
For now, it’s much more like Alligator Dachau. That was the nazi’s first and flagship concentration camp used for propaganda.
Ah yes technically correct. Alligator Auschwitz is just catchier for political purposes and frankly close enough to evoke the intended feelings
Oh that is so much better. /s
I mean, yeah? An extermination camps is arguably several magnitudes worse than a concentration camp, isn’t it?
That doesn’t detract from both being horrific.
Hyperbole and analogies are just two conflicting figures of speech. The overall message is weakened than if either is used by itself.
How many people have to die of negligence before it becomes an extermination camp? Or does the term extermination camp necessitate active acts of murder?
Not to mention it did become an extermination camp.
Dachau? No, it never became an extermination camp. Hell, I visited the memorial site and know about its history to some extent (though certainly far less than actual historians).
It killed tens of thousands still, especially in the later parts of WW2. But its purpose was still to concentrate enemies of the state and not to exterminate them.
I should have clarified, I meant Auschwitz.
I’m not necessarily a fan of using words from nazi-germany to describe MAGA shit, because it allows the maga-fascists to say they’re not as bad as the nazi-fascists (which I believe is true, for now). But if you’re gonna do, I don’t think this is how you should do it.
I don’t have to explain that if you use a thing and put a new word for it, you get a new thing (for example, New York is different than York). But the thing is, you can’t always know what connotations people have with the added word. A toy car and a super car are both cars, but you know one of those doesn’t have an engine. The word toy downgrades how serious it is compared to just the word car alone. The opposite is true for summer camp and concentration camp, where concentration adds a different meaning to the word camp.
Because Auswitz is most of all known as a place where millions of people were killed and, putting a new word in front most of the time will make it actually sound less awful. Alligator Auswitz, at least to me, makes it sound like a less deadly place than ‘normal’ Auswitz.
Auswitz Alcatraz on the other hand sounds like a deadlier version of the ‘normal’ Alcatraz.
Names aside, they’re going to take people in there and kill them.
65 million Haitians and this is what they want to do with them.
Let’s not get lost in the sauce.
For sure, us gov is doing horrible things right now and the association people have with nazi-germany make total sense.
Yes, and Dachau escalated to Auschwiz. Just like what will happen here.
It might happen here, which is why Dachau would be the more apt comparison in my opinion.
But right now, it’s certainly not anything like Auschwitz. The Japanese Internment Camps you had some decades ago weren’t Auschwitzes either.
No, they weren’t. But we’ve already seen how this shit ends, and the name is an allusion to that.
6/6. Nobody does fascism like Donnie does! Everybody says so. Beautiful fascism!
Informationen about concentration camps on TikTok because of recent events. Did not have this on my bingo card at all.
Gaza.
Arguably all of these already apply to most jails. So I guess it’s all on brand ?
Mass detention w.o. trial?
Targeted group persecution?
Harsh, inhumane conditions?Jailing doesn’t need a trail. It’s mostly thought of as „pre trail prison“
We all know there is a certain bias in the police force, and as well as some legislature being more towards some groups
There are many reports about jails being crowded and or unsanitary.
All in all, less in the nose stuff but still
Mass detentions without trial?
A huge chunk of the American carceral system is people in jail awaiting trial. According to the Prison Policy Institute 70% of the population of city and county jails are pretrial detentions. They can’t afford bail so they are stuck in jail without ever being convicted of anything.
I don’t think this statistic should be that alarming. One of the main roles of the jail is to be the place where suspects are held pretrial. If convicts were taken to prison directly from the courthouse immediately after conviction, and if short term sentences were served in prison rather than jail, the percentage of unconvinced people in jail would have risen to 100% - and note that these are two technical changes that don’t worsen the incarceration problem.
And there is a problem. I’m not saying there isn’t. I’m just saying this number is not a good indicator of it.
This is NOT the same thing.
People were sent to concentration camps on the basis of administrative decisions of the executive branch of government. They weren’t awaiting anything, they were just locked up.
When waiting for a trial can take a year to defend against an accusation that would typically carry a sentence in months, and when spending time in prison is one of the best predictors for whether someone will be imprisoned again later in life, the waiting thing is a distinction, but the difference it makes is uncomfortably close to being academic. Reminder: these are innocent people in the eyes of the law, so the decision to lock them up is made as an administrative decision (how high to set bail and how the court is scheduled) by the judicial branch, not by a decision that is based in the practice of justice
They’re both awful things, but it’s important that the distinction is made.
Some places have been trying to do bail reform, but I believe the federal government has basically quashed that this year… Or are, at the very least, fighting very hard against it.
It’s a distinction without a difference. At the end of the day both groups are still random people the government has said “These are bad people trust us,” and have not proven it. Pretrial detention still definitionally means they’re being held without trial. It’s just been decided it’s okay in one situation and not the other. What does it matter if someone is theoretically “awaiting trial” if in practice they are just waiting the rest of their lives?
Yes, the immigration detentions are worse. But both are still fundamentally denying due process to those detained.
It’s a distinction without a difference
Absurd… Are you got real?
Did… Did, you think this was a gotcha? Most jails/prisons are concentration camps.
