• sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    This seems really premature. I dislike Carney’s policies for a bunch of reasons, but it’s premature to shit on him for this. We don’t know what the final trade agreement will be.

    The last time Trump threw one of these tantrums, NAFTA morphed into USMCA without much of a hit to our economy (afaiu). If our government can repeat that success while we’re diversifying our economy away from the US then that’s a win.

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      11 hours ago

      I really don’t care what the trade deal looks like, letting the US president dictate Canada’s internal tax policy is a bridge too far for me.

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      Well, there was this thing a couple of weeks ago when international law as well as agreed upon nuclear safeguards and processes were well and truly shredded by a genocidal maniac, then he came out tutting against the guys that got attacked out of the blue just like every other G7 lapdog. So far, unimpressed.

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      We don’t know what the final trade agreement will be.

      It doesn’t matter since Trump can reneg on it at any moment as he did with the previous one

      What Carney did here is signal trump that he will chicken out even faster than trump does at any tartrum he throws

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        The US wiped its ass with first NAFTA, now CUSMA, it will wipe its ass with whatever comes from this shitshow. The US cannot be trusted. It’s signature is worthless on any documents. I hope this is all lip service and we are doing the real trade negotiation with the EU, Asia, Lat Am.

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          10 hours ago

          precisely, which is why I see zero benefit in appeasing or even negotiating with the orange turd

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            I’m of the opinion that letting Trump think he’s “winning” while playing backdoor politics with friendly nations to defend Canada’s interests is not a bad approach. If they can make it to the American midterms, hopefully he’ll get hamstrung and become a lame duck president. Assuming he doesn’t find some archaic way of overriding them…

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              is that what we are doing or just wishful thinking?

              so far all I have seen from Carney is everything Trump would want. C2 takes Canada a step closer to a police state supposedly to fight fentanyl smuggling. C5 gives oil and gas a free ride and allows the envirioment to go to shit as long as oil and gas are making money

              if this is “pretending” to let trump win, I fail to see the difference to capitulating

              finally, there will be no midterm nor can we bend over and give trump everything for 2 years hoping what? that the Dems will save us? tüat’s beyond naive

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      You just said why it’s a stupid, stupid thing to do: Trump would have caved anyway. All Carney had to do is wait.

      That he would cave so quickly shows how little he values Canadian interests over American profits.

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        And to that I would just add - people are PISSED. People will literally self-deputize in a second if America rolls in with tanks or drones or whatever (they are already setting the stage for that with their relentless internal and external rhetoric about how “dangerous” Canada is with migrants and terrorists supposedly flooding in to their stupid country from the northern border). This is a very sketchy time. America can 🖕🖕🖕🇨🇦hates you