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    16 hours ago

    You can just skip the “but”. Other policy makers either horribly fail with their much shittier policies all the time and when they do succeed that’s still a problem because those are bad policies.

    And don’t worry, a lot of that stuff has already been successful in better places so it shoukd go fine.

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      16 hours ago

      Ok fine. His platform is interesting and I wish him luck delivering on it.

      Shitty policies are usually successful in the sense that they achieve or at least advance their (shitty) goals, fwiw. Are Mamdani’s proposals serious (e.g. does he have financial projections for them), or are they like platitudes like wishing for world peace? Tbh I don’t think the mayor has the authority to do any of that stuff.

      We’ll see how it goes.

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        10 hours ago

        Cities are often where these things start. To underestimate a mayor’s impact, especially in a city like New York, is not the play. It also sounds like you aren’t even that familiar with his platform since it took me only one simple google to find a couple examples of a costed plan.

        The US is plenty happy electing people with zero plan whatsoever, and what they do have is easily disproven nonsense that has never, ever worked. Major cities and economies in the world have done, with success, what Mamdani is proposing.

        For the love of god, just be happy that the United Shithole of America is finally taking a step in the right direction. It’s going to be ok, and it pretty much can’t be worse since even trying and failing would be better than purposefully destroying everything for a quick buck.

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          Well, we’ll see what actually happens. NY has a history of chewing up mayors.

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            6 hours ago

            Yea, their really shitty or barely mediocre mayors? This is very different from times before and I think it’s ok to be excited. If it does end up going wrong you need to know that being a massive pessimist just for the sake of the world’s most depressing “win” is not a healthy way to live. Plus, nothing is really pointing to this being a bad thing except your own evident misunderstanding of the situation.

            I wish him all the best, and more than anything I hope that the federal government doesn’t sabotage him and I hope that even if they do people will be able to understand that instead of going “wow he failed! No I’m not going to think about it harder than that.”

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              massive pessimist just for the sake of the world’s most depressing “win” is not a healthy way to live.

              Healthy cynicism my friend ;).

              Plus, nothing is really pointing to this being a bad thing except your own evident misunderstanding of the situation.

              I see a bunch of idealistic goals that don’t look likely to survive contact with reality. But, like you, I wish him all the best as well.

              Is the Green New Deal still around by the way? Same issue, more or less.

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        14 hours ago

        Yes, he’s the real deal. He has the math worked out, he’s got a cohesive plan, he’s made alliances, he’s got a ton of energy behind him, and he just nails every interview - even hostile ones

        Yes, it’s going to be an uphill battle. There’s going to be a ton of institutional resistance… But if he can force policies through anyways, it would so huge for the entire country