Sounds like it’s time to not cooperate with the Houston Police in any investigation. Take matters into your own hands.
You have the right to a speedy deportation, anything you say may not fucking matter at all because you sound like your skin is brown so we’re deporting you regardless.
The only reason I’ve ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.
Noise? Never.
Fights? Never.
Strange noises. Never.
Etc etc.
All they do is cause more problems.When you’re a woman getting the shit beat out of you by a man who could easily kill you (this is the case for the majority of men to the majority of women) and its call the cops or be seriously fucked up or killed it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Domestic violence is often one sided or at least one sided in who is able to defend themselves, it’s not a fight when one side is wildly out matched
Yeah, calling other domestic abusers to protect you is definitely the best way to deal with your abuser. It definitely won’t upset them more and will surely lead to everyone being resolved.
You’re right they should just… get killed instead then?
Or kill their abuser. If the situation is that dire, then the cops aren’t going to make it in time anyway.
Your dog will not be shot.
I completely understand. But there are other numbers that can be called.
what, the domestic abuse hotline with one person at the call center located at the other side of the country? that will then proceed to call the police anyways?
be realistic
Realistic? Where in a thread about calling the cops and the cops calling ICE on the victim.
I don’t know how much more realistic you want to get.
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if there’s a breaking and entering you probably have more chance reasoning with the trespasser than having anything good come from pigs showing up.
Depends on your melanin content unfortunately. Fuck racist pigs
A random non-cop is probably going to have better de-escalation skills than a cop too
Every interaction I’ve ever had with police I’ve been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What’s frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you’re speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you’re making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they’re not.
My experience is the opposite, but I realize that’s because I’m a white dude.
what? fuck off with this acab bullshit, it’s not all black and white, if there’s a knife fight in the neighbor’s house i’m calling the police, and i’m appalled that there’s someone who wouldnt.
what do you suggest, getting stabbed yourself? ignoring it and letting an innocent human being die? how would you even sleep with that at night?
the problem is they never check who’s who before they start shooting. there are numerous instances where the person who calls the police for protection is the one who gets shot.
so your choice is between a stabbing and a shooting. and a stabbing you might be able to run away from.
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i mean you were the one who brought up not calling the police on fights, soo
Ok bootlicker
It wasn’t until she called the number the next day that she learned the police had called immigration agents on her. The officer who answered the phone told her that the police report noted that ICE had been contacted, and advised her not to make a report in person or risk being detained, she said.
The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.
I know I’ll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.
SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.
PS: That is not to say that those police departments don’t have their issues. They have many. But I don’t think they are as complicit with Trump’s gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.
If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in.
So the defense is, to avoid having state and federal jackboots come in, the only solution is to put on jackboots yourself and become part of the problem?
You misunderstood. I don’t mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government. The Texas legislature has been very close to doing so a number of times before I left because the city did not want to brutalize the homeless population.
The rest of the country has no idea how much and how often Austin city council butts heads with the state. Liberal council and a fascist state sharing the same.downtown area. The state legislature loves to abuse the city as a way to parade their anti-woke agenda to their rural magats.
Don’t even get me started on the gerrymandering of Austin.
You misunderstood. I don’t mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government.
If they already have the local police doing their dirty work, haven’t they already effectively done that?
Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?
But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?
Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?
Yes
But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?
No. In fact, cities like Houston and Austin try to not volunteer information that they are not required to by law. If you read the article you’ll see that the lady that called the police has an active deportation warrant, which is why the police officer was obligated to notify ICE and also why the police officer told her to not show up.
Nah, only snitch cops are good cops, and the responding officer just quietly filed the notification to ICE. He could have said right then “FYI, I had to notify ICE because they have an active warrant out for you” or if he was an especially good cop “forget” to, but he just quietly followed orders and reported the victim to the gestapo.
This is exactly the use case for not allowing cops to actively help ICE. Not only are there jurisdictional issues, but now you’re discouraging people from calling help when they need it
Similar for drivers licenses. If you get into an accident, do you prefer the other driver to be licensed and insured, and take responsibility, or do you want them uninsured and hit and run?
And SNAP. Please tell me no state requires immigration status, forcing people to starve their kids
discouraging people from calling help when they need it
This is literally why they’re doing it. Government makes simply existing illegal for a huge class of workers so companies abuse them as much as they want while they’re too scared to call for help, no matter how bad it gets. Bonus points if the general population hates them too so even publicity doesn’t matter. (Hey, totally unrelated, isn’t it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?) I know the phrase is way overused, but The Cruelty Is The Point isn’t (only) about how psycho some of these people are, it points to how they’ll do anything for money.
In the end, though, this a great way for gangs gain power. People aren’t going to stop calling for help, they’re going to stop calling the police for help. I guess the party of law and order would love a good crime wave.
Hey, totally unrelated, isn’t it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?
murders someone in cold blood
WhY dO yOu HaTe Me sO mUcH
It’s not just murderers that get that though. Even if you went to jail for something like driving while black, you are a dangerous ex-con for life.
Austin, Houston, and San Antonio have been working for years to try and build a non-adversarial relationship with the massive hispanic population in their area. This is key to keeping crime rates low and communities safe. Millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent on community outreach and relationship building, and Trump just takes a shit on it all overnight.
Voting Republican is voting for evil.
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No one said Obama wasn’t also evil. In fact, no one mentioned him at all. And he wasn’t one of the options in the last election. Why are you so obsessed with him?
Am I? I just hate the lesser evil bullshit.
You prefer the more evil?
There are arguments to be made in favor of that yes, in the sense accelerationism. But that is based on the delusion that the fascist state will eat itself in the end, which is not guaranteed. That and all the suffering of course.
What I’d really prefer is not to have a corrupt lying stooge between me and decision-making.
Accelerationism is a horrible idea. It’s based on the ideas that,
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We can’t prevent having a fascist state now and then,
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We can afford the waste and suffering this causes.
With climate change, it should be clear that we can no longer afford the luxuries of wars or even culture wars. Technological advancement should allow us to live with far less waste and far less labor than we do. But that would mean departing from capitalism entirely. We need that post scarcity society now. Resource wise it’s a lot cheaper than what we have now.
No argument here, I wholeheartedly agree. But let me state the obvious: parliamentary democracy is a feature of capitalism.
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Funny how people like you is against LGBT, but you’re the first to lick Donald’s ass clean.
Hate it all you want, but until you can establish a viable third party (who isn’t also awful), “lesser of two evils” is the only choice you have.
Isn’t that literally life?
It’s every single choice these people have ever made and they still don’t get it.
That’s what Chomsky said too, I don’t buy it. In my country there are 10+ parties, 6 of which in government, and people are still playing the lesser evil game in the deluded hope they can shift the window.
Yes and every time you vote in our little country it’s still for the least bad party. It’s the nature of politics. You may like a party, but it still has politicians in it, who are human. Humans seem to be inherently flawed.
The nature of parliamentary politics sure, but that’s just oligarchy with a thin veneer of democracy. No politician is ever responsible, stronger still, the more they push austerity, the more they are rewarded with top-level positions in international institutions. That is what drives politicians, not the betterment of their people. So I can’t undo myself of the impression that participating in this sham is reinforcing it, legitimizing it.
That’s… life. You’ve never not made a lesser-of-two-evils choice. It’s metaphysically impossible.
Very interesting viewpoint but it doesn’t quite seem to apply when choosing flavors at an ice cream parlor.
Yeah, you prefer the greater evil, we get it
You’re the one who brought him into the conversation.
Lol what is it that people like you don’t understand? Do you want to be kicked in the nuts twice or once? Easy fucking choice every single time.
I’d reckon it’s more natural to try and avoid any nut-kicking, but hey, that’s me.
I wasn’t going to comment on this originally but…
What a fucking dipshit stupid non-answer that also exposes how little you think and how little empathy you have.
Oh I’ll just not participate and I’ll never be subject to whatever law/power that happens next, but more importantly fuck everyone around me that this will effect far more than I, because I’m privileged enough to not have to really think of dealing with it. I live in moron-land where only my thoughts dictate what happens in the world.
Your actions have affected lives around you whether you believe in it or not, stop being this fucking naive in the face of all the people you’ve let down. Shame on you.
P.S. to mods, before canning this comment, do a real good think about how uncivilized having an opinion like this really is. Weigh out who’s really affected by this type of thinking and spreading it vs. this one moron’s feelings for once.
That’s not an option. So that just means you are delusional.
If you didn’t vote for Harris, you helped Trump get elected. That’s basically the same as voting for Trump.
All the morons that for instance criticized how Democrats handled Israel/Gaza, and recommended not to vote Democrat, are partly responsible for what’s going on there now, with no help coming through, and widespread starvation and disease!
All the morons that complained about inflation, despite it was getting back to normal after COVID, are responsible for the economic chaos we have now.By not supporting the lesser evil, you are actually helping the greater evil.
There are lots of way more constructive things to do, that can help push things in the right direction, than just being in denial.One could argue that by voting you’re supporting the status quo, the bipartisan democracy heavily invested in said status quo. You are the one obstructing change.
Or to say it with a quote:
If democracy demands compulsory voting for candidates people can’t believe in, it’s not democracy, it’s extortion.
EDIT: One further thought on that reasoning: it might actually make one morally obliged to vote for a third party.
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Huh, why didn’t I think of that?
Not gonna bite on this? I wonder why.
Obama. Your head. Rent free.
What fucking year do you think it is? Is Obama in the room with you right now?
People like you suck.
Love that you think you’re making a point here lmao
You sound like you drank paint during your formative years.
Actually, he/she seems vaguely intelligent and educated, which makes it extra perturbing that he/she knowingly acts so stupid.
That’s not fair to paint drinkers. Definitely dropped on their head a few times.
For additional context, immigration law includes specific carveouts for domestic abuse. Under the law, a victim of domestic violence cannot be deported legally regardless of their immigration status.
Party of no law and no order.
She’s clearly a trouble-maker, keeps getting into fights.
/s I hope this wasn’t needed…
