Tensions flared in the House of Commons on Monday over opposition calls for House of Commons Speaker Anthony Rota to resign after apologizing to the House of Commons for inviting, recognizing and leading the chamber in a standing ovation for a man who fought for a Nazi unit during the Second World War.

  • stillwater@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Does the fact that he was in the SS just makes him a bad guy regardless of his actions?

    You don’t know much if you think there were innocent SS troops.

    His Wikipedia says he fought Russians, it doesn’t say anything about exterminating Jews or anything else we know Hitler’s Nazi’s did.

    You don’t know much if you think that’s the only bad thing SS troops did.

    It reminds me of Pope Benedict being a member of the Hitler youth.

    You don’t know much if you think the SS is comparable to the youth group.

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      1 year ago

      You sure are coming off as very judgmental.

      No one knows what this guy did during WWII but you’re all so quick to assume because he was SS he most certainly did something bad. That’s lazy thinking and if you had any shame, you’d be embarrassed by your words

      Like Oskar Schindler, he too was a Nazi but he saved lots of Jews and Jews love him for it. I’ve not heard 1 Jew call Oskar a Nazi but this entire thread is acting like just being SS means you’re the worst person in the world, without any merit.

      We sure live in a fucked up place where merit doesn’t matter and the opinion of people who admittedly know nothing and are just assuming from nothing.

      I also didn’t say Hitler Youth and the SS were comparable. You clearly don’t know how to read if someone is making a comparison or not so you come off as uneducated and ignorant.

      For someone who told me I don’t know much, it’s clear as day that you don’t know much.

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        Because I am being judgemental. That wasn’t supposed to be subtext. I’m literally telling you’re being ignorant, but now you’re signalling that you’re not being ignorant, you’re being an apologist for the most Nazified troops.

        No one knows what this guy did during WWII but you’re all so quick to assume because he was SS he most certainly did something bad. That’s lazy thinking and if you had any shame, you’d be embarrassed by your words

        This reads like you’re either completely and utterly ignorant of who the SS were, or you’re a Nazi apologist. It’s telling you think there’s more shame to be had about assuming an SS member acted like an SS member than you are that you’re trying to suggest it’s possible that there were good SS members.

        Like Oskar Schindler, he too was a Nazi but he saved lots of Jews and Jews love him for it. I’ve not heard 1 Jew call Oskar a Nazi but this entire thread is acting like just being SS means you’re the worst person in the world, without any merit.

        You already tried to argue about people having to go along with the flow of an authoritarian country, and now you’re reversed course to try to justify “Not all Nazis” while using one of the biggest examples of a secret anti-Nazi. Nazis don’t save Jewish people en masse and sabotage Nazi arms, and it’s fucking insane that you’re suggesting that. If any argument here deserves shame, it’s this one.

        We sure live in a fucked up place where merit doesn’t matter and the opinion of people who admittedly know nothing and are just assuming from nothing.

        Explain how this doesn’t apply to you.

        I also didn’t say Hitler Youth and the SS were comparable. You clearly don’t know how to read if someone is making a comparison or not so you come off as uneducated and ignorant.

        Then why did you make the direct comparison in your rhetoric? You literally said it reminded you. Do you actually have that little clue about what you were saying?

        For someone who told me I don’t know much, it’s clear as day that you don’t know much.

        This statement would mean a hell of a lot more if your contention with my statements wasn’t just doubling down on your already ignorant statements, accidentally revealing you didn’t even know how you were speaking, and making some absolutely inane new comments that show even less of an understanding than before.

        You saying I know less is probably a good thing because your idea of how all this played out is pure fiction and fantasy.