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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 7 days ago

Macron threatens China with NATO expansionism, I'm sure that's gonna go over well

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Macron threatens China with NATO expansionism, I'm sure that's gonna go over well

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 7 days ago
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Macron to China: Keep North Korea out of Ukraine war or risk NATO coming to Asia
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  • Lyudmila [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

    frizz-lecture

    Mr. Macron, please name an Asian country other than Russia which has shoreline on the Atlantic Ocean.

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      That hasn’t been a prerequisite for a long time, countries without an Atlantic coastline might outnumber those with one in NATO at this point

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        frizz-actually Sure, but those countries are surrounded by countries that do have Atlantic coastline and/or sea access to the Atlantic. They’re all within the geographical region identified by Article 6.

        Notably Hawaii, located in Oceania and south of the Tropic of Cancer, isn’t part of NATO’s collective defense commitment. There are in fact zero nations in Asia that meet the requirements for NATO membership.

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      They have been trying for a while to built a Pacific Treaty Organization and failing because no one want to be in conflict with china for no reason

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        SEATO was a total flop, largely based around trying to prevent neocolonies from becoming independent. Unsurprisingly, nobody wanted to play ball so the French and Americans just took their ball and ran home to prevent further collapse of the paper tiger after Vietnam kicked their shit in.

        Every later attempt has basically just been some random chud senator who didn’t read a briefing on it going, “gee why don’t we have a Pacific NATO,” without reading about the Pacific NATO we already had at home.

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    Defensive alliance moment.

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    Macron really has a habit of making this big circus full of clowns and wild statements to the international world so nobody will see what an absolute pathetic mess his presidency is. Joke of a country

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    Is this bruh thinking he’s Napoleon Bonaparte?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      petit Jupiter

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      Jovian Presidency

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    Lol. Seeing the westoids impotently try and assert power they no longer have is amazing.

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    Today I Learned: North Korea is in China according to the French

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    Is he delulu? I thought his whole shtick was yapping about neo-gaullist independence from the usa?

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      Macron says lots of things. Dont take him seriously.

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        Most coherent western politician?

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    macron qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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    Western Europe and threats of more destruction to Asia, what an expected combo.

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    Yeah imagine NATO aligned military bases near China… wouldn’t want that to happen.

    Seriously, what a dork, standing behind Americas shoulder making demands from the safety of his fickle allies protection - does he think China should be worried about the potential presence of French military assets? Obviously not - it’s American military might China has to contend with and the Americans are already there.

    Thinking that the presence of French Belgian, German or Australian troops in south east asia in any way affects the balance of power is delusional at best.

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    Snipe his ass, Xi

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    how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man uncle-ho-2

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    deleted by creator

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      They aren’t, and never were. As they’re part of an actual defensive alliance, North Korean troops were only ever deployed in Kursk, undisputed Russian territory.

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    Battlefield 2

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    This threat completely undermines the western claim that nato expansionism should not have threatened russia into the ukraine war.

    You can not claim that nato is a benign and peaceful defensive alliance while simultaneously saying that others should be threatened by its expansion.

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      I don’t think the west gives a single fuck about being hypocritical.

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        I’m not saying they do give a fuck. I’m saying that next time you get into an argument about nato expansionism you should use it in persuading people towards the position nato is used as an aggressive organisation and threatens others. It is clear and undeniable here.

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          The whole defense shtick is only for domestic liberals and fascists living in potential vassal states. NATO has waged war against humanity for the past 80 years, nobody in their right mind actually believes in that stuff.

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            nobody in their right mind actually believes in that stuff

            The vast majority of average people in the west sincerely believe it and need to be persuaded otherwise.

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              in their right mind

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          Yeah ok fair comment. I’m sure Libs will still find some way to contort themselves into believing the exact same thing though.

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          Libs, like chuds, don’t care either. They’ll just claim you’re being a SeeSeePee shill

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