Which movie is this from?
I’m pretty sure it’s Shaun of the Dead.
The problem is that in order to unite the left it is necessary to agree to the ideological level, very difficult, to unite the right it needs just a briefcase of money.
to unite the right, all you have to do is say “so, we all hate Black people and immigrants, right?”
Where do I fit in, I want capitalism with massive regulation and oversight and no corporation protection for board members?
Where do you fit in? Do you own capital? Are you a business owner or a factory owner? If not then you are a tool for capitalists to exploit as they wish
Sounds like SocDem.
I swear bro the next capitalism actually works, bro trust me, bro without capitalism you wouldn’t have iphones bro.
bro i promise, with social democracy capitalism is equalitarian. yes bro i promise. bro, no more oppression! please don’t look at the global south
I love the iphone thing because they are literally all manufactured in the most successful socialist country still existing.
Yeah, and the most capitalist part in them is the outrageous price tag and planned obsolescence. But yeah, keep talking about “muh technological development”
Don’t forget privatizing an IP that was only made possible through government funded research. Literally the only “innovation” jobs made was taking a bunch of existing tech and being like, “what if we made a media player that is also a phone with a touch screen”
And don’t get me started on how much I fucking hate touch screens. Whoever decided all cash registers should be touch screen only and took away my 10-key is going to beg for me to kill them once I am done with them.
Stealing other peoples’ work and selling it as your own for your profit, the sacred art of the capitalists (it just works!)
Yeah, I work as a bartender and have occasionally had to deal with register/payment terminal combos that are basically just Android based devices with a receipt printer. I hate them, because it’s completely possible to swipe up and close the app, or double press the unlock button and open the camera, or accidentally input something and trying to undo anything without starting over is a pain 'cause the buttons are too small. And occasionally those things will just not work, and the battery drains real fast.
The luddites were right.
True
Liberalism and capitalism is the best system in the world.
I guess it just depends on what your metric is.
Unfortunately one of its leading metrics is its contributions to human suffering. It certainly is the best system in the world at spreading suffering.
I’ve never come across anyone who calls themselves a “Stalinist.” Maybe that’s what some horseshoe theorists call Marxist-Leninists.
The only people I call Stalinist are people who intentionally go about delaying or postponing things. They gotta quit stalin for time.
You could say that but you could also say that they’re biden their time
Is this horseshoe theory?Lmao post this in dad jokes please
I must confess to have stealing this meme from elsewhere and didn’t even notice that lol
This is one of my favorites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX8GeXpw84c
Oh that’s gold.
The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Stalinists, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is what they have in mind. But, on the contrary, they glorify us with this epithet; it is an honor for us to be Stalinists for while we maintain such a stand the enemy cannot and will never force us to our knees.
What would it even mean?
Kinda like Marxism-Leninism, but in a one-man cult-of-personality police state and if you as much as look funny at the leader, you get disappeared/shot?
In other words, what’s happening to the USA minus the Marxism-Leninism?
How about, “are anyone of you qualified to do open heart surgery on an entire country?”
Stalinists, Maoists and Socialists (at least the reformist ones) are pro-capital, just under a different form. They love their commodity production and wage labor…
Yet you participate in a society, curious, etc etc
Serious question: has communism ever been proved to work at scale? (not communist regimes, the communist ideology)
No, it gets destroyed by a CIA-funded coup every time. (Read Jakarta Method)
But look at Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, Kerala, China, Burkino Faso for modern attempts at Socialism/Communism
Have to get past American and western interventionism to figure it out. But socialism lifted millions out of poverty look at china and Russian history. Both countries went from feudal and monarchal society to industrial powers houses lead by peasants and workers, rivaling the United States in mere decades. So I’d say yes socialism does work. Also both those societies went from a near totally illiterate society to a 100 % total literacy within a generation. Free healthcare,housing and unemployment was non existent. Just to name some more achievements of socialism.
Socialism yes. I’ve always thought that capitalism regulated with socialist policies is the way forward. That way you can still encourage entrepreneurs to get going.
But we’re still left with the r > g problem (money attracts more money).
Communism is the extreme end of socialism isn’t it? And I’ve always thought that extremes never work. Extremism is a circle…
I’m open to being educated on this though…
How do you determine where an "extreme " is on a circle? Democracy was considered extreme once
No system has ever worked at scale. Capitalism is literally destroying the planet we live on, Feudalism wasn’t any better, and no other system was ever applied at such a scale.
Maybe the scale is the problem, and the Anarchists were right all along.(most) Anarchists don’t have a problem with scale, just with hierarchy. We can have democratic and free associations at any scale.
You can’t force your system onto every society and culture on earth, as Capitalism has done, when your system is Anarchism.
That’s true. Imperialist ideologies like capitalism or the state socialism of the CCCP have an advantage in spreading their influence globally. But there’s nothing in principle standing in the way of one world, one federation, a million tribes. Anarchism does scale quite the well in that regard
no capitalism keeps declaring war on it, the road towards it however… Massive Ws in the soviet union, the prc, dprk, east germany, just tremendous achivements
Not capitalism ≠ communism (or communist ideology). Imagine an interest-free economic system. This could also work completely without communist ideology, but would get rid of the problematic core principle in capitalism that money attracts more money (which for instance might have stopped the Swasticar CEO from even becoming so powerful). This would also improve the value of work compared to just owning money. But maybe I am just delusional and instead the anarchists are indeed right. Dunno.
Capitalism is a global system, it is based on exchange value and things being produced and sold for a profit, not for use (which is known as commodity production), and if you want to trade internationally, you have to follow this capitalist mode of production. Communism, on the other hand, aims to abolish the production of commodities (money included) and instead produce goods for use. Notice how these two systems differ so much, international trade between actual communist and capitalist countries becomes impossible given how differently they value things.
Now consider how today’s capitalist nations are so dependent on trade, and it’s because trade allows nations to prosper, to grow, to have increased standards of living and gives the nations access to materials they otherwise couldn’t have produced within their local borders. If a nation goes full isolationist, it loses access to all of that and the nation becomes crippled.
So there’s three ways for communist countries to go about the global capitalist system:
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Go full isolationist, which would cripple a country substantially.
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Participate in the capitalist market, meaning the country would be forced to produce commodities and participate in capital exchange which would make them, in one definition or another, capitalist. This also heavily risks the country to fall into full capitalism with time (as seen historically).
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Support worker movements internationally en masse and hope they succeed with achieving their revolutions. If they succeed, only then can exchange value be safely abolished, goods be produced for use instead of profit, and international socialist/communist trade can actually happen with people having their needs met.
It’s clear that international communist revolution is pretty much the only viable way forward, and the only opportunity to do so failed (with Spartacist uprising, Hungrarian Soviet Republic, etc being crushed, leaving USSR standing pretty much alone).
So to answer your question with all this nonsensical wall of text in mind, no. Actual communist/socialist mode of production has never existed (therefore whether communist ideology works hasn’t been proven), as any experiments so far had essentially been capitalist.
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