An actual link to the petition instead of just talking about it:
https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-6679
Why didn’t the CBC provide a link? It would’ve been so easy for them.
Appreciate you
This needs to be higher!!!
Because petitions do nothing? Name literally a single petition from this website that has caused a law change.
You do realise they present these in the House, right? This isn’t change.org. They bring the issues into parliament, and with that, politicians are able to held more directly accountable because one simply can’t just state that they weren’t aware of the issue. They are put on record as to whether or not they were present when the petition was presented by a sponsoring MP, and are put on record for their stance on it.
People that say “petitions do nothing” talk about corporate sites like change.org where it is literally inadmissible. OurCommons is literally provided by the federal government to give your voice to parliament.
These petitions get a “government response” which is typically an MP from the government giving a canned response. I’d love to see a link to whatever record you are talking about.
Hansard transcripts are a thing, and they livestream and timestamp videos of House sessions.
Any links?
Lying for political gain should be a felony, just like any other kind of fraud.
They rarely outright lie. Its almost always very misleading though
Also difficult to prove they were acting in malice instead of ignorance.
Once you get to Parliament, ignorance shouldn’t be an excuse anymore. You’re supposed to be representing Canadians at the highest level.
You should have seen media reports one thing then corrects later.
This meme.
https://me3project.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/6or9perspective.jpg
Or as simple as “when i was in school this was taught” vs “now it’s taught this way”
Lots of people are ignorant to what a liberal and a communist are. That’s even related to politics but no one would understand if we kicked out politicians for that.
The political world can be complicated and distinguishing true from false is not always easy, said Marland, who teaches at Acadia University.
Yes, exactly. You’d pretty much need a referee, and then how can you be sure that that person isn’t the one fibbing for personal gain?
In a health democracy, it seems like politicians avoid saying things that are demonstrably false on their own. Tortured and spun to the point of uselessness, sure, but never directly counterfactual. Take Poilievre’s “Carney has made pipelines illegal”, for example. Useless (since nobody wants to build one anyway) and basically untrue, but you could make up a hypothetical pipeline that would be illegal, and Carney does have a lot of say over the regulations, so by the letter…
The alternative facts seem to start only once you have a burgeoning radical faction there to support them in the first place.
Can we all take a moment an appreciate Karim Bardeesy’s official portait. The MP that is backing the petition.
He’s a 🤡
