• leadore@lemmy.world
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    Glad to hear you have had this epiphany, no matter how you came to it. I’ll be the first to say “good for you!” if you prove your sincerity by dropping out of politics and donating the substantial monetary gains you made via your influence and insider knowledge to worthy charities, preferably those helping people you harmed by your toxic influence. Then, having proved that you’ve really changed, you may legitimately continue speaking out against political hate and violence as a penance.

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    She was okay less than 6 months ago, of her voters getting tased at a town hall, and was laughing at them. She is evil and playing a game right now.

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    She’s positioning herself for running as Vance’s VP in 2028. That’s it.

    She hasn’t had a change of heart, she doesn’t warrant us “giving her a chance,” she’s not “okay for a republican.”

    NOTHING has changed.

    She’s an unapologetic white supremacists who is happily employed by the billionaire class.

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    My most charitable thinking about this is that she s always just playing to win. The way she acted was just that, an act. She did it because she knew it appealed to a particular segment of society that could get her elected. Now there is a sea change she is smart enough to know MAGA is doomed and she had jumped ship early because she thinks it will be more politically advantageous in the long run.

    She may be genuinely remorseful if she is good for her, but it doesn’t erase the things she had voted for, against, and the things she said that harmed people or incited violence deliberately or accidentally.

    That said, she is somewhat uniquely positioned to assist in the deprogramming of MAGA members so, though I don’t trust her, the things she is doing and saying today are leading people away from Trump, and that is the most vital mission right now.

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      Yeah, the apologies are the first step, if she follows through and changes we can decide wgat to do. But as it stands stepping back will at the very least reduce the heat she gets because she only gets it because she’s actively been picking fights

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        Yeah, the apologies are the first step, if she follows through and changes we can decide wgat to do.

        she should never be given benefit of the doubt just because she “apologized”. her past conduct should not be forgotten, ever, no matter how strategically advantageous it might be for you at the moment. the end does not justify the means.

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          Her apology and future actions should be considered if she’s ever found guilty and put before a court for sentencing.

          Messing up while running for political position should result in a permanent return to private life. There’s a limited number of seats and millions of people who can fill them.

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          The means are an attempt at my belief in rehabilitation and forgiveness when possible. Her past conduct is reprehensible, and also I don’t believe we should be saying that it’s not worth bothering trying to change.

          I’m unlikely to ever like her, but fucking hell I’m sick and tired of this pervasive idea that people can never change for the better and even if they do they’re still evil. It’s carceral bullshit.

          She hasn’t demonstrated change yet, just announced her intentions, whether true or not. It’s worth keeping an eye out and seeing if she actually does change. I’m never going to forget who she has been for the past several years, but just as I believe a murderer should be given the opportunity to become a better person I’ll give her the room to do the same or not. It’s not like I have any power over her whatsoever.

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    She’s getting bullied by MAGA now, so yeah obviously she’s now against intimidation and toxic rhetoric lol. Fuck that nazi, she still hates everyone: black people, immigrants, lgbtq+, “wokes”, Don’t be foul by that bleach-blonde-fascist-bitch. Do not trust these people, they will betray you.

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    She’s just going to push her own brand of awful. Don’t think for a second that she’s grown a conscience. Probably going to make a run for prez, hardline dictator instead of stupid dictator.

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    “The most hurtful thing (Trump) said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor, and that is so extremely wrong,” Greene said, “and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger.”

    Congrats, you helped create the toxic cesspool that is modern politics. Go fuck yourself, cunt, you don’t get pass now that it’s affecting you personally.

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      And if the Dems don’t mount a REALLY effective campaign and candidate, she might be the leading bet for who’s gonna win.

      She is the ONLY one left who captures even a sliver of Trump’s base. But she also has the appeal of people thinking they’re making a “liberal” choice with her. And make no mistake, most of the country does not follow politics or drama and know zilch about her, only that she sounds “down home country” the way she talks and she don’t wanna associate wit dat there Trump fellow after he diddled dem kids.

      When media and interviews turn their eyes to her and start grilling her on the batshit things she said like jewish space lasers and so on, it will only serve to launch her higher in viewership and attention. Trump won on this tactic and Dems still worry about a “perfect candidate” who will preserve the status quo that nobody cares about outside their dusty halls of ancient pageantry and old money.

      We are SO fucked.

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        I think enough of the MAGA base is incapable of voting for a woman that she starts in a pretty deep hole even within her party. I don’t see her getting the nomination, and if she does I see her struggling to inspire turnout in the general. Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.

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        Senate. She wants a Senate seat, and Trump wouldn’t endorse her due to the fact she’s been constantly wanting to release the Epstein files.

        Granted, I don’t think she believed that Trump was in the files, until he went ape shit about it.

        She worshiped Trump, and still holds all the ridiculous and evil beliefs from before, but now her god has betrayed her.

        And I say good.

        Trump is likely going down, with or without her, so I say without.

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        I just saw a quote from Michelle Obama, along the lines of the US isn’t ready for a woman president. MO might be correct, so yeah let’s have MTG run for pres. to dilute the GOP votes.

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          I just saw a quote from Michelle Obama, along the lines of the US isn’t ready for a woman president

          Probably just making excuses for why the awful candidate her husband helped force onto the ballot failed at the most winnable presidential election since the two previous ones.

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        Hey dont push it, a Greene-Fuentes ticket probably would beat Newsom-Buttigieg, definitely would win against Harris and whatever cursed soul she picks as a running mate

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    Unpopular opinion: I say give her a chance. I’ve been watching a lot of conservative YouTube stuff ever since the Charlie Kirk bullshit. There’s a pretty substantial portion of former MAGA that actually have relatively leftl-leaning views, that haven’t figured out their views are pretty far left. A lot of those folks are kinda dumb, but if they start voting like me, I will not complain. Don’t shit on their potential awakening. I’d really like to see some reverse Fettermans.

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      I say give her a chance.

      You have no idea how many times I saw people saying this about Trump’s first term before he started.

      She has no values, she is a rat sensing the ship sinking before anyone else. They all know when Trump dies there will be zero leadership in the GOP and people are going to swing hard left to avoid the pedo circus.

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        Seriously this, what has she ever done to earn giving her a chance? The only reason she’s speaking out is because she’s now immediately affected, but couldn’t give a shit before when others were in the same position as she is now.

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        You have no idea how many times I saw people saying this about Trump’s first term before he started.

        Believe it or not, I wasn’t born in the past 9 years. I heard it too.

        She has no values, she is a rat sensing the ship sinking before anyone else. They all know when Trump dies there will be zero leadership in the GOP and people are going to swing hard left to avoid the pedo circus.

        uh huh… that changes absolutely nothing about my comment.

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      The only way to give her a chance is if she commits, right now, to vote to impeach Trump. If she does this, then I’ll say she’s serious.

      I say this as a once very strong and vocal conservative who has now turned full 180-almost anarchist progressive.

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      Unfetteredmans.

      We can hope, certainly. There are a lot of entities looking to capture them, though, and the wages of sin are actually pretty good, counted solely in gold. They buy a lot of advertising.

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      Look… I’d love for this to be genuine and real, but the chances of that being true are SLIM TO NONE. She’s been doing this for a decade, and barring any proof she just started taking meds for a newly diagnosed mental condition, I can’t believe any of this is real.

      She’s pulling a scam. I don’t know who the target is yet, but this is not genuine.

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        I don’t disagree, but some of the shit she’s saying is better than her peers. Scam or not… its something.

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    Humbly, go fuck yourself.

    Reflection and repentance is important, but it doesn’t immediately absolve you of all the shit you did to get to this point, and those you hurt and stepped on to get there.

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      Unfortunately, we got like, a good 50/50 chance of her actually being elected president in a few years with the current state of both parties unless something big changes.

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        if you havent been paying attention closely enough to notice that american voters do not want a woman in the white house im not sure what to tell you

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          Yah because people really warmed to Harris and Clinton (despite Clinton winning the popular vote.) 🙄

          Don’t worry, a lot of people will dismiss her for being a woman, but if she can wrangle trump’s base of armed patriots she has all the cards and the system will bend for her no matter what she says or does. I do understand how political capital works and why gender only matters so far in the big game.

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            Yeah I dont know. I work in a field where I hear a lot of the details of people’s employment stories and if I can tell you one universal thing its that women need to be 5x better than a confident sounding man in order to be taken half as seriously.

            never underestimate how much the world dislikes a woman who knows more than anything than they do

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    Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said Sunday she will stop using “toxic” rhetoric, marking what would be a dramatic shift in a political brand…

    Wow they didn’t waste any time dragging her, I love it. 😄