• saigot@lemmy.ca
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    He’s not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he’s just sparkling child molester.

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      This talking point is very popular among the right wing libertarian guys who are so offputting they cannot date their peers.

      It’s also popular among Christian fascist theocrats who want to be able to date and marry children.

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      It is spreading for a reason though. There certainly is a difference between raping an 8 year old and a 16 year old. And medically it is defined as “sexual interest in prepubescent children.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19327034/ People have started slinging the term even at guys dating 20 something year old women just because they are 50 or 60. In short, the term has been made into a dog whistle and used were it doesn’t apply because it carries more negative connotations than terms like statutory rape, sexual assualt of a minor, sex trafficking.

      Frankly, I think the term has been cheapened by this misuse. Now when people here someone is a pedo, instead of immediate revulsion, they have to ask, “what kind of pedo”. It shouldn’t be that way. All of the phrases should be bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate. So it is more the acceptance that statutory rape is ok that is the source of the problem.

      That said, the motives for this talking head to say what she said are purely political. Her words aren’t worth spit.

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        The biggest tragedy about everyone on the left using pedophile as a dog whistle is that it actually directly harms children in my opinion. Pedophelia is a mental disorder, and just because someone is a pedophile doesn’t mean they have ever or will ever harm a child or anyone else for that matter.

        The problem with everybody using the word pedo and creating such a hateful and negative reaction to that word instead of the more proper term of child sex offender or child rapist, is it directly results in pedophiles who want to get mental health help to ensure they never hurt a child, never will and they will just keep it quiet because their entire life will be destroyed if they try to get professional help.

        Of course, everybody is always responsible for their actions, but all of you using the word pedo in such a negative and catch-all way directly results in children being harmed.

        You all need to use better terminology, like rapist or child sex abuser, not using a real DSM-5 mental disorder to vilify.

        I won’t compare it directly to any other mental disorders because I will get a significant amount of hate, but imagine picking any other DSM-5 disorder and using it as a catch-all to vilify, it would be unpopular.

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    She has a 14 year old daughter

    If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is “actually 15 year olds aren’t kids” then that person is a pedo.

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    It’s already been pointed out how wrong and gross this is.

    But for the sake of discussion let’s give her the biggest possible benefit of the doubt.

    So then the president of the united states was ONLY a human sex slave trafficker. Super.

    unfortunately I think her handlers know that simply planting a seed of doubt will work on many in their audience.

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      And child rapist. Even if you want to be pedantic about what qualifies as pedophilia, statutory rape is still rape and some who’s not an adult is still a child.

      And if you want to be extra pedantic, it’s worse. Following a response above, one is a mental disorder that can be lived with, whereas the other is taking action, actually sexually assaulting children

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    If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I’m going to think of you as a pedophile.

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    It should be also pointed out that he’s totally innocent of elder abuse, due to the age of the victims. Why are people refusing to see the bright side of this? There are scores of crimes he’s innocent of!

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    Pedophilia isn’t pedophilia?

    The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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      It’s going to be more like “Those 15-year-old girls knew what they were getting into/needed the money/were asking for it because they were promiscuous anyway/and somehow were able to make adult decisions of consent when a 15-year-old kid can’t even legally drive.”

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    "This is this person’s view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls,

    That’s not ‘barely legal’…

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    Oh, they’re going the “explaining the difference between a pedophile, a hebephile, and a ephebophile” route. Let’s see if it works out for them.

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      I hate that I know the words hebephile and ephebophile. I only know them because of people who do weird mental gymnastics to justify their creepy behaviour. “Um actually, he’s an ephebophile, not a pedophile” is a huge red flag whenever I see it

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    The age puberty starts has been dropping and it now occurs earlier than ever in recorded history

    But I imagine this fact actually appeals to conservatives and republicans

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      The republican party has been leveraging people’s misunderstanding of how the world works for decades.

      An 8-year-old child can experience early-onset puberty, but that doesn’t make them capable of making adult choices, much less make it remotely okay for someone to use them as cattle for old men to rape.

      All any of this is, is more of the “well define the line” bullshit and distraction that they use to fight abortion rights and nearly every other social issue that allows women in particular to not be treated like cattle. They hate you, they hate your kids, they hate you existing and want only the worst outcomes for each of us.

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    The damage control has started. The bad thing is I can see some people being ok with her statements.