A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.
A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.
Nice to see the sheriff took action, since the school doesn’t seem to give a damn.
The girl has been allowed back into school, only after a school board meeting voted to allow it; but ‘on probation’ and with the expulsion still on her record. The family is following up with a federal lawsuit because of that.
I’ll note she didn’t just hit him out of no where. She first reported it to school staff. They did nothing. She then tried to contact her dad and got told by school staff ‘parents don’t need to get involved’. The school then put her on the same bus as the offender, who showed off the image again to other students in front of her.
What else was she supposed to do. I’d have hit him too, and I’m almost 30.
Wow! WTF? Parents being involved seems the minimum. The way I see it, if the school took no action and the parents were intentionally not told, the kid got off easy without a full blown asswhoopin’.
Fuck that school, their behavior is what allows this kind of thing to continue and turns these asshole kids into asshole adults… and then we end up with modern day US.
If the school knew and didn’t report it to authorities or parents then the people involved should also be charged. School officials have a responsibility to report suspicion of sexual abuse, physical abuse, and self-harm. That’s what being a mandated reporter is about. I’d bring criminal charges against anyone wanting to keep it in house.
Sounds like a great cause for a law suit to me (not protecting a student). And we all know how much Louisiana cares about that.
If the school knew and didn’t report it to authorities or parents then the people involved should also be charged. School officials have a responsibility to report suspicion of sexual abuse, physical abuse, and self-harm. That’s what being a mandated reporter is about. I’d bring criminal charges against anyone wanting to keep it in house.
I taught middle school briefly. I had a student that was sexually harassing another one of my students. Using “[student’s name] GYATT” as a nickname in kahoots and shit. The student being harassed had also transferred in from being homeschooled all her life - no experience dealing with this kind of shit.
Admin refused to do anything. I rearranged my seating chart to put them as far away from each other as possible, but admin blew me off when I asked if the problem student could be transferred to another class. Nope! Left me on read.
It’s insidious in Oklahoma. I imagine it’s the same in Louisiana. They really do not care about sexual harassment. It’s the “good old boy” system, where they refuse to consider it as anything more than a minor issue.
Admins don’t care about students, period. Not just sexual harassment
On probation for what, defending herself? Fucking hell.
I’m all for violence when needed. It was not needed but certainly deserved.
Without getting all wrapped up in your beliefs, surely you can see how assaulting someone for showing pictures you don’t like, even if they depict you, is not self defence.
That’s following the same logic of Muslims attacking someone who drew the prophet being justified.
Him brashly showing naked pictures of her to people in front of her was sexual assault, meant to damage her mind/emotions/social connections.
Why are you only interested in the damage done to his body, and not the damage done to her life?
Why is her “option of last resort” use of violence not okay when ever other attempt failed to protect her? How else can she protect herself when literally everyone else refused to?
Bro the PC rot is real.
Sexual assault? The fuck?
I do not care about the damage done to him, I said he fucking deserved it.
Who the fuck said it’s her last resort?
I’m talking from a legal stand point, it’s not fucking self defence. It’s certainly not sexual assault either. There’s a serious misconception of the law on here. Your feelings are not reality, just because you feel so hurt by this story does not change the fact it wasn’t self defence, that’s my point.
Why do you think I have a horse in the race? Why can someone not disagree with you and be a reasonable person? You instantly assume I’m some sexist cunt.
I don’t give a fuck about any of it really, it’s a story about people I don’t know in a country I don’t live in. She is the victim absolutely, I’m all for her hitting him. But it’s not self defence… It’s just not. Go study some law, any law from a first world country and show me one place that would be considered self defence.
harassment?
not necessary or reasonable to stop an imminent threat of danger, but I think you know that
It’s child porn for fuck sake. The school did nothing and put her on the bus with him. What other option was she left with?
If it were my daughter I’d be proud of her.
Yep, I’d be proud of her too and support her all the way. You know what else I’d do?
Get her a fucking solictor because she just assaulted some kid.
Haha. Believe it or not I have actually pre-warned my kids that if they need to defend themselves physically to just press ahead and I’ll pay for the solicitor after.
They’re all incredibly good kids so I say that to them knowing it won’t be abused but provides them with the confidence they’ll be backed up and to stand up for themselves in the moment.
there were many like the press, lawsuit, higher authorities
I’d be, too. Kid needed an ass beating & the authorities who failed here needed a comeuppance.
You must think you are really smart, don’t you?
Smarter than the comment I replied to, and you, for sure.
That’s not the same at all. As a dad I’d I more than likely would be in jail for beating the fuck out of the kid.
Getting angry over images of mythical skydaddy means you have mental issues.
Getting angry at a boy who made fake nude images of your daughter is 100% justifiable
The worst part about Lemmy, more so than Reddit, is you guys are retarded. You read one thing and decide it means something else, then start arguing the wrong point.
So let’s go through this in points
You’re not a tough guy, you’re a fucking idiot. You’ll really help your daughter out in jail after beating a small child.
You need some education
Yeah it is fucking justifiable, I’m all for it. But you know what it isn’t? FUCKING SELF DEFENCE
Not being allowed to contact a parent while distressed at school especially strikes me as bad. Even if they have no good reason to be freaked out, preventing a distressed student from reaching out to a parent while at school really sits poorly with me.
Every one of the school officials who knew and did nothing should be charged as accomplices.
Sorry for the wall of text. I tried to tldr it and failed.
proper tldr is hospitalized my bully. Mom invited a detective to the meeting, who threatened to arrest the vice principal for aiding and abetting assault of a minor.
I got pretty much that too happen in middle school. Beat the shit out of a bully who was punching one of my friends repeatedly in the head. Like kicked him in the testes then started stomping on his hands with steel toed boots and broke his bones so bad he had to move to another town for rehab, beat him badly.
My mom found a detective who’s kid was also getting bullied to show at up the meeting. VP was the disciplinarian in our school. We headed into the room with him, with the principal already sitting at the end of table. He didnt say an word that entire meeting.
My mom tried to open the meeting up while we were getting settled, by asking what the school was going to do to prevent students from having to take ‘drastic measures of self defense.’ VP immediately stood back up and started yelling about how it was HIS meeting and it was my actions in question. The detective, who was still standing, calmly unbuttoned his jacket, revealing his gun and badge, and calmly told the VP to sit the fuck down.
He started interrogating the VP about student reports of violence, when hed been informed, what hed done about it, etc. Then he told the VP that either he was leaving that room with steps already in place to ensure there would be no more violence, or he was going to arrest the VP for aiding and abetting in multiple assaults and abuse of a minor. He also threatened that arresting him for that would have the VP’s sons in sleeping in DSS custody that night.
Shortly after that I was sent back to class, but not before he cautioned the VP in front of me that any attempts to punish me for the fight would be seen as retaliation for reporting his actions, and making good sure I knew to call him (the detective) if that happened.
Like i said, the main bully was out of school, but his 2 friends were called in to the office shortly after that and expelled for the year. Then an announcement for a school wide assembly on bullying. Which was a pretty funny assembly. They both claimed they were implementing a 0 tolerance policy (which how we broke that is a story for another day) but also (clearly demanded by the detective) litrerally read out the states laws on self defense, stressed that students had an absolute right to defend themselves from violence which no adult could take away.
A police officer was there, who ended up becoming the high school’s student resource officer, who then told students that if reports of harassment or violence were falling on deaf ears of the faculty, to please report that to the local PD who most definitely would pay attention.
I would think that all of the school officials could be brought up on charges of failing to report as mandatory reporters.
I would like to congratulate her on the new college fund after her parents sue the absolute shit out of the school.
Unfortunate for everyone else, but when a school says “parents don’t need to get involved” they’re doing something quite wrong
I’d raise hell if my kid was told parents don’t need to get involved. It’s not like the parent wasn’t going to hear about it as soon as she got home.
If there is pornographic material being made about my child, I should be the first person the school calls. And immediately.
I’ll bet that has a penalty of like $1.25 total.
Back when I was in school, they would have expelled him and gave her a high five (and told her not to get caught doing it again).
Her brothers or cousins might very well pay him a visit also.
When I was a kid, the police would have arrested and charged the boy for CP even though he’s a kid too. This story is insane, it shows how much things have changed.
You elected a pedo for president and all his cronies!
Holy shit, that was me? I alone can decide the president? And I decided Trump? Holy fuck.
We found him! Right here! This guy!
Because it’s not real it cannot be CP legally. Which is why he is being charged on this lower count. I am sure the sheriff would love to give him more years if they could.
The AI nuance makes this make more sense… the law has yet to catch up.
things are very different in very different locations. Don’t over-generalize like that.
If im the dad in that scenario I’m catching assualt charges then sueing for child endangerment, fuck everyone involved from the school.
Yeah if it were me, bare minimum the boy’s parents are getting their dinner interrupted by a loud angry knock on their front door.
If I’m the dad, I’m lawyering up. This is going to be a very expensive lesson for the school
Absolutely, but all I’m saying is you can probably lose an assault case and still win a completely different lawsuit at the same time, one of the lawyers will end up paying for the other.
School administration is a joke
Sue the school, get the police involved, go to the press, etc. The authorities in her life were failing.
If we were talking about adults, I might agree with you; but that’s a lot to ask of a 13 year old.
Perhaps she should have waited until she could get home and speak to her parents; but she did reach out to the adults responsible for taking care of her and was repeatedly turned away without a solution.
With that, I can’t really blame her for her actions here. I’d educate her on how to reach out further for help in the future, but I definitely wouldn’t punish her for this one.
Not of her parents, though.
While her actions are understandable, violent force without imminent danger is still difficult to justify. In practical terms, though, that kid needed a severe beatdown & the shitty administrators need to face consequences.
stop trying to argue both sides.
“She should of done xyz instead” in one sentence “that boy deserved it” the next.
Principles like nonviolence & justifiability aren’t really negotiable. Maybe you should try morality sometime.
I love how you keep trying to gloss over the fact that you are arguing both sides - How the fuck is that “moral”?
Oh becaue you are doing it and you can do no wrong from up on your high horse.
Either you are a troll or you have legitimate brain damage - either way -blocked.
The moral thing here is for that sexual assaulting scum to be expelled and criminally charged, and the girl defended.
That didn’t happen, the girl was punished the boy protected.
She did the right thing, pussyhole lad should’ve been beat far worse for his crime, if he wasn’t going to be properly punished.
There’s no morality in non-violence that allows violence to go unchecked. It was her last resort and it still isn’t good enough for you.
If she didn’t do that it would have continued and probably even gotten worse.
Right.
Nope: see violence.
There was no violence until she performed it. Maybe you need a dictionary.
Far from it: there were higher authorities, the press, lawsuits, shaming & embarrassing the school administration publicly until they cave. They weren’t exhausted.
Violence is only justified in imminent danger. In civilized society, we only authorize lawful force. I think you know that. Lacking integrity by corrupting & bending moral principles when challenged isn’t moral: learn morality.