The Conservative and NDP caucuses are grappling with what to do about the upcoming federal budget and whether they want to be part of an effort to trigger an election by voting it down, multiple sources told CBC News.

Senior Conservative sources say the party’s leadership does not want an election right now, but they are also opposed to voting for the new Liberal government’s first budget given the potential reputational risk of backing Prime Minister Mark Carney and an agenda they simply don’t support.

A Conservative source says speculation about the Liberals potentially losing the budget vote is “not contrived” as, at this time, there are not enough votes for it to pass in the House after it is tabled on Tuesday.

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    There’s no good option right now. There’s no party that has any plans to do what Canada really needs. I don’t see any representation anywhere.

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      I think Libs are trying to re-tool Canada to become more independent of the American economy and, tarrif lunacy, etc.

      I think he’s right in his note that this won’t be easy. Gonna hurt a bit. In the long run we can walk on our own two feet again (drop your fucking pride here, America’s economy and our interdependence are waaaay bigger than just “fuck ‘em!” will allow). But, sacrifices (like rehab) to get there. Give Carney, AND THE SYSTEM, time. There is ZERO way to achieve Canada’s goals otherwise.

      As for striking back at the US? There’s a balance here between existing trade, future trade, new markets, independence, and the crazy politics where Canada does NOT fall into the “Trump-trap” where he antagonizes, creates a backlash, then justifies his lunatic responses. …wanna be Venezuala? How about 51st state?

      It’s delicate as Hell; complex as fuck; frought with political “loose-cannonry”, and despite what anyone thinks, the PMO can’t just ‘snap its fingers’ and ‘make it happen’ (certainly not without critisisms of Carney the Dictator-next to Trump, riiiight!). It’s gonna take time, and we literally just started.

      Carney-hate boggles my mind right now. Moreover, he closer to old-school conservatives (ie pre-merger with The Reform Party - ie who they are now) than he is to Lib, imo.

      Cons now are just pursuing what’s worked in the US. Critisism (nominal anyway), divisivness, and fear-mongering, all rile up those susceptible to demagoguery. It’s not about Canada, it’s just about wresting power away from others.

      Can we just stay the fucking course for a year or two? New markets, value-chains, relationships all take time.

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        You’re right its going to take time. Im waiting to see what the budget actually says but the fact that the Liberals are splitting the capital costs and operating costs into two different categories for the deficit is troubling. Then apparently things like corporate welfare are now going to be considered capital investments which count as a positive on the capital side? Hmm… this does sound like cooking the books to make a horrible deficit look not so horrible.

        Im just not sure I trust their motivation as the Liberals, for the last 15 years, seem to be very good at spending more than they take in and now they’re going even deeper with the same strategy and saying ‘just trust us’. I dont think I do. We’re already so far in the hole and where’s the good news from the last 15 years?

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        It’s really not that mind boggling that people hate Carney when you look at what he promised vs what he did. And the fact that he’s essentially a small ‘c’ conservative and an establishment banker with close ties to the multi-millionaires and billonaire eltes of western society who is essentially still working for their best interest rather than the average population.

        He will always favor private interests over any other public solution because he believes they are the drivers of growth of our economy. For him, the economy is the bottom line and the economy is the growth of private business.

        He doesn’t care about us. He doesn’t care about our quality of life. He pretends he does to gain our support only.

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        The economy according to their definition: Private interests and corporate growth.

        Yeah it’ll hurth them, but it won’t hurt the actual real economy which is Canada’s revenue.