I’m not saying electronic music sounds bad. I’m saying it lacks the soul in the audio portion. Like I said in my other example, on a well-recorded audio track, you should be able to tell where each person is standing and hear the shape of the room and the reverberation of sounds mixing into harmonies. When everything is done on a computer that’s literally impossible to do. That being said, there’s tons of great electronic music out there, but I still don’t like auto-tune as it just masks the singers inability to perform themselves.
Do you think that songs are recorded with all of the artists crammed in a room with a couple of mics placed around the room which is then recorded immediately to file? Cause that is not how it (in pretty much most cases) works.
You record the artist separately and than layer the tracks. Hell, most of the time even that isn’t done in a single take. You do multiple takes and splice the best parts together.
And a recording room does not have a characteristic sound shape. They are made to reflect as little sound from the walls as possible so you get the most pure version of the instrument. That’s the whole point. If you want something like reverb you add it either in the signal chain during playing or later in the production. Unless the instrument is recorded in a specific room with specific mics placed about for that rooms specific sound, if you hear any sort of room characteristics that is most likely a mistake.
The only case I can think of where you can hear the things you are talking about is when you are recording a live show/album. But even then you will need post processing for a proper “soundstage”, aka being able to hear the position of the different musicians. A single mic does not record position. You have to pan them left or right after the recording to get them left or right in the soundstage. You can do the exact same thing with electronic music.
And as I’ve said elsewhere in this thread, using autotune does not automatically make you a bad singer. If you can hear the autotune, that’s on purpose. If you can’t hear any autotune, there is a good chance that’s it’s still being used. The whole point of autotune is that you don’t hear it when used as intended.
I’m not saying electronic music sounds bad. I’m saying it lacks the soul in the audio portion. Like I said in my other example, on a well-recorded audio track, you should be able to tell where each person is standing and hear the shape of the room and the reverberation of sounds mixing into harmonies. When everything is done on a computer that’s literally impossible to do. That being said, there’s tons of great electronic music out there, but I still don’t like auto-tune as it just masks the singers inability to perform themselves.
Do you think that songs are recorded with all of the artists crammed in a room with a couple of mics placed around the room which is then recorded immediately to file? Cause that is not how it (in pretty much most cases) works.
You record the artist separately and than layer the tracks. Hell, most of the time even that isn’t done in a single take. You do multiple takes and splice the best parts together.
And a recording room does not have a characteristic sound shape. They are made to reflect as little sound from the walls as possible so you get the most pure version of the instrument. That’s the whole point. If you want something like reverb you add it either in the signal chain during playing or later in the production. Unless the instrument is recorded in a specific room with specific mics placed about for that rooms specific sound, if you hear any sort of room characteristics that is most likely a mistake.
The only case I can think of where you can hear the things you are talking about is when you are recording a live show/album. But even then you will need post processing for a proper “soundstage”, aka being able to hear the position of the different musicians. A single mic does not record position. You have to pan them left or right after the recording to get them left or right in the soundstage. You can do the exact same thing with electronic music.
And as I’ve said elsewhere in this thread, using autotune does not automatically make you a bad singer. If you can hear the autotune, that’s on purpose. If you can’t hear any autotune, there is a good chance that’s it’s still being used. The whole point of autotune is that you don’t hear it when used as intended.