• brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
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    1 day ago

    You didn’t answer the question, go ahead and bring up the 10x cheaper russian assets that can match fleets of f22 and f35

    • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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      1 day ago

      You want me to answer the question that is your last paragraph?

      I have no idea! I don’t live in Russia, I’m not well-versed in modern warfare and military technology, I haven’t studied diplomacy, I have no idea how Russia would respond if nato suddenly brings to bear every piece of military hardware it can muster.

      Literally all I’m saying is that more expensive doesn’t always mean better quality. That’s literally it

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        1 day ago

        Literally all I’m saying is that more expensive doesn’t always mean better quality. That’s literally it

        You are right, more expensive doesn’t always mean better quality or more products that’s why I am referring to assets made with these money that show that in this case spending 10x more than everyone else is resulting in a bigger and more advanced army

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          1 day ago

          in this case spending 10x more than everyone else is resulting in a bigger and more advanced army

          This is the part I think you haven’t shown, even a little bit. First you linked a wikipedia page which was a list of countries with the highest military expenditures, then you linked wikipedia pages for a bunch of american military hardware. At no point did you try to compare american military hardware with Russian military hardware, either in quantity or quality. The only comparison you’ve made is in terms of expense.

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            19 hours ago

            It’s not that hard you can compare it yourself, google how many military assets russia have. USA spend a trillion in war each year and as a result they have almost a thousand operative fifth generation planes (for comparison russia has less than 25). USA has about 70 nuclear submarines where russia has 20

            • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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              4 hours ago

              Now we’re finally getting to a real argument! Now you’re arguing that the US is better prepared for war than Russia is, not just that the US spends more money on war than Russia does.

              I do notice, however, that you have linked not a single article or source for the claims in these comments. Where are your numbers coming from?

              You might be right that the US is more prepared for war than Russia is. I’m not convinced, and also I think m532 has a good point that nukes (which both the us and Russia have) change everything, but you could still be right.

              I’m actually not that interested in whether the claim “america would easily beat Russia if they actually tried” is true. My entire reason for engaging was simply to point out that “the US spends more on war and hence is necessarily better prepared for war” is not a good argument; the conclusion does not follow from the premise.

              If you want to convince people on the internet, you should practice making better arguments, and sourcing them properly. Your argumentation in this thread has been abysmal and I wanted to help you see that and make improvements

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              18 hours ago

              Russia has hypersonic nukes, usa doesn’t. It doesn’t matter how much you spend, if you get hypersonic nuked you are dead.