No cure so you gotta rest. Nose is stuffed so you gotta mouth breathe. Throat is dry from mouth breathing. Dry throat makes it painful to swallow. Pain keeps you from sleeping and recovering. Lack of sleep leads to worse symptoms like piercing headaches. Need to rest to get rid of the headaches. Headache and swallowing is too painful to rest properly. Lack of rest perpetuates headaches, nose congestion, dry throat, painful swallowing.
What is this BS
Those symptoms you’ve described? It’s your immune system doing that to you. On purpose, not a mistake. Nose is stuffed because you’re producing extra mucous to flush infection out of your airways. Dry throat because the tissues are inflamed to directly kill viruses using the body’s transport system. Yeah, it’s bad for you - but it’s worse for the little invaders.
Yes, I know it’s the natural defences popping off but I’m saying I’m having a hard time keeping this plane in the sky when my copilot keeps slapping me with a hot seafood entrée. Y’know??
It’s a good argument against the intelligent design theory, isn’t it?
I was originally going to include “what part of this is intelligent design?!?!” In the post but I didn’t want it to devolve into a religious debate. But seriously, how intelligent is our design when our defense mechanism makes recovery even more difficult to achieve?
Like some asshole is out there designing a vehicle that runs on solar but you’re also only allowed to drive it when the sun is down.
Eating a toe of raw garlic is about the only real remedy. Because it’s slime covers the throat and some ingredients suport the body in defending. Lime blossom (? Lindenblüten) tea has a similiar effect but less potent and accelerates the metabolism (i.e. you get hot) instead.
I’ve heard garlic has anti bacterial properties, does this actually work? I’ll eat a whole bulb of garlic, I don’t care.
For me, it does. It’s a case of woah and then read up the why. But really chew it good (nose will instantly get free too) and bite through it.
But still, it’s only suporting; mileage may vary. And too much will get you an upset stomach.
Because evolution isn’t intelligent and humans have been able to keep reproducing despite getting fucked up every now and then by our own body trying to fight off colds.
I’ll say from personal experience, I found out that my body is actually awesome at responding to colds - I just don’t let it.
Storytime - for pretty much all my life, I’ve had what I considered a pretty normal and functioning immune system. I would get a cold, feel how you felt for a few days or weeks, mostly just power through, and then I’d be back to normal.
However, in college I took 6 months off to hike the Appalachian Trail. This was great for a lot of reasons, but one thing I noticed (which everyone around me agreed on when I mentioned it to them), is that I’d pretty much stopped getting colds. For reference, trail life is not at all sanitary. Daily showers and grooming are the stuff of fantasy. Washing your hands after you take a shit is rare. If you frequent the small lean-to shelters along the trail to sleep (as I did almost every night), you will be sleeping shoulder to shoulder with other hikers with similar levels of hygiene. And it’s not like we are somehow not catching and transmitting pathogens to each other. Every year, things like the flu or norovirus will rip through the hiking community, leaving 100 mile stretches of trail where you’ll walk past dozens of hikers groaning in their tents (haphazardly set up just feet from the trail), with a pool of vomit just outside.
But the whole time I was on the trail, I never got a cold. As long as I wasn’t sick sick, I felt very generally healthy. Why?
Well, the life I was living was very different than my normal life. I think I am decently healthy in my normal life. I eat a healthy diet and exercise regularly. But on the trail, I had a lot more things going for me.
- I slept a lot, in sync with my circadian rhythm. 8pm was widely agreed to be “hiker’s midnight”, since about 15 minutes after the sun went down, all the hikers would start feeling sleepy and decide to go to bed. I would usually knock out instantly, and then wake up at first light, groggily peer out my tent at the coming morning, take a piss, then roll back over and sleep for another hour or two.
- I was getting a lot of exercise. This exercise was rarely particularly strenuous, but every day I would wake up, shoulder my pack, and walk about 15 miles.
- I had a phone, but had no backup battery bank, mini solar charger, or anything like that. Cell reception in the hills typically oscillated between bad and nonexistant. So my phone almost universally lived in the bottom of a stuff sack inside my backpack. I would take it out maybe once every couple days to listen to a song or two before turning it off again to conserve prescious battery life in case of emergency. Partly this helped because it meant that I wasn’t staring at a bright phone screen when I should be sleeping. But more than that, I think it helped because I wasn’t constantly feeding my brain a stream of nee content. I spent almost my entire day, every day, hiking in the forest in silence with no distractions. All I had to entertain myself was noticing the environment around me, occassionally checking my map and digital watch to calculate how far to the next stream/shelter/trail junction/town, and whatever thoughts came up in my head.
- I spent pretty much all my time breathing fresh air. Most of the time I was in rural land with very little air pollution, and even when I did approach population centers, they tended to be, at most, medium-sized towns.
- When I wasn’t hiking or camping alone, I was hiking and camping with other hikers. Trail life tends to dissolve the differences in class, age, national origin, political affiliation, religion, or anything else. Everyone shares a common interest - life on the trail - so conversation tends to flow easily. Trail talk tends to center around things hikers think about - food, water, miles, towns, shelters, gear, other hikers, weather, poop. Outside the rare individual who gives off bad vibes, everyone is welcome and welcoming, creating a general sense of community and support.
- I had a well defined goal, obvious steps to take to achieve it, and made progress every day. The goal: walk to the northern terminus. The plan: wake up, break camp, walk. Every day, I could lay down in bed and look at my map, celebrating the progress I’d made, seeing how much closer I was to some landmark like a town, a mountaintop vista, or a significant mile marker. With a clear goal like this and few other distractions, my sense of time dialated significantly - the present moment became paramount. The next few and previous few miles were all that mattered. Yesterday and tomorrow were significant markers in my mind. But the town I was in 3 days ago, I felt I hadn’t seen in years. And when I started the trail? What I would do when I finished? That was another lifetime.
All these things, I think, contributed to my physical and mental health. And doing so, they either (a) improved my immune system enough that the common cold was stamped out long before my body had to create congestion to deal with it, or (b) my immune system wasn’t overreacting to a relatively minor threat, and was simply taking care of these minor viral infections in the background without bothering me
Loved reading this. I found exactly the same on the long hikes I’ve done. Havent done Apalachian trail, but have done The Camino, Francigena, Kumano Kodo.
Simple:
- Drink water
- I Clear the snot in the wash basin every 30 minutes
- I Don’t drink the snot that comes in backwards from
yourmy nose, no matter how lazyyou areI am feeling- spit it out in the wash basin
- this way
youI don’t get cough
- I don’t take paracetamol or symptomatic relief medicine, instead keep 2-3 handkerchiefs to keep it clean
- Sinuses blocked and blowing nose is not enough, there is a medicine for it. But if you can, try some mace and nutmeg powder instead.
- Fever? Yes. I Sleep with it.
- Feeling weak, I take some ORS (the one with sugar in it)
And the most important part, don’t go around coughing/snorting it at other people.
Sinuses blocked
There’s 2 types of medicines for this.
1 will dry up your nose, essentially stopping the exit of pathogens via that vector. The other will convert blocked-nose to running nose.
The 2nd one is desirable, if you want it to actually get fixed. Of course, you will need to clean your nose more often, as a result.When I have a cold I wear a cloth mask to bed and that actually helps reduce the sore throat I get from breathing dry air. Also, it does a pretty good job of preventing my partner from getting sick as well!
All that IS the response, and without it, a virus would kill you.
You are better off toughing it out than taking drugs that block the responses.
thank you for your advice, doctor…?
Dr Trustmebro. It’s Romanian.
You’ve survived every one you’ve caught so far haven’t you? That’s a testament to it’s awesomeness!
And you haven’t been mauled by any lions either, have you?
The immune system is fucking incredible, you should read up on it and then you’ll never make a post like this again!
There was a cartoon on it too, no?
I was about to say this too. It does a pretty fucking incredible job at fighting colds.
Wait. Was this a troll post, and I just ate it up?
Blows my mind that the solution for so many things is just ‘try not to make it worse while your body does magic’ Broken bone? Stop moving it and wait. Cold? Drink water, sleep, and wait. Cut? Cover it up so it’s not actively bleeding, and wait. Even in modern medicine were still letting the body do the heavy lifting, just trying to help it out where we can. No wonder diet and exercise are such good preventative measures
I think that the real wonderment is that, even though we know the way virusses are distributed. And that social distancing is adamant in preventing that distribution, we simple tend to ignore this and spreading that shit like crazy.
That weird behaviour costs our economy millions.
That “weird behavior” of close, social cooperation is why we’re the apex predators of this planet, for better or worse.
Well in that era we were blissfully unaware of the cause of disease, so it wasn’t that weird.
Today it is
Sure, but you unfortunately can’t just toss out millions of years of evolutionary programming just because it’s no longer convenient. Hence, extinction is a thing.
I mean it’s as weird as having wet eyes I guess
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bad at it? you literally rest for a week then recover, as opposed to dying. your pretty fucking good at it. you just don’t know how bad it could be
The real question should be:
Why is our society built around disposable labor and assuming we will be at 100% functionality all the time?
Capitalism
It isn’t? That’s why you get paid sick leave.
Trying to figure out if you are joking, or you are from a nicer country that getting paid sick leave is something everyone gets. Good chunk of the american work force, has to negotiate with their boss, go to a doctor that’s going to charge them between $50-$200 so they can tell you “yep you have a cold, here’s a note so you can prove it to your boss”, so you can give that note to your boss and hopefully not get fired for taking some UNPAID days off. (of course as most states are “at will” if you do that too often you still run the risk of getting fired for “no reason” later).
It’s the nicer country.
Lol good one.
That really depends on what country you live in. The US doesn’t require sick leave AFAIK and Canada only requires 5 days. So that’s like 300 days where you have to choose between getting better or paying rent. More socially progressive countries get paid sick leave, not everyone.
Yeah I think the real thing is just not understanding how bad a cold without an immune system would be. IE only real way to put it in context is, read up on what an immune-comprimised individual goes through when they get a cold.
It’s a bit like saying
“why is my countries missile defense so crappy, whenever we’re attacked there’s chunks of metal all over the ground, so much smoke and noise it makes it hard to sleep, why are we so bad at defending from missiles”.
Look at this guy with his sick leave and ability to stay home and rest when he’s sick!
What about him?
A lot of people in this thread saying that viruses are losing when we live through a cold. That’s just not true. Their goal is to live/reproduce, not to kill. They’re winning at a different game, it just hurts us as a byproduct.
If it makes you feel any better, your microscopic attacker is not having a very good time with your body’s response either. You’re the undefeated champion in this arena so far, keep up the winning streak.
I don’t know about who is the champion. The virus eventually fails to multiply in the host, but it meanwhile spreads to others.
How about we consider everyone a champion?
Trophies all around!
This woke-ass participation trophy shit is ruining my flu season!
Dude, you are in a million years battle with other organisms trying to exploit and kill you, and you’re fucking winning. I would call that a blazing success. The other organisms are trying their literal best, their survival depends on it, and you just KEEP. ON. WINNING.
Some might even call this million years battle a cold war
The funny thing is, thanks to fever, this “cold war” is both literally and figuratively a hot war.
deep sigh
Okay, here’s your upvote. Now leave.
Actually, please don’t. It’s Lemmy and we need all the users we can get
I’m not using Lemmy. Do I have to leave?
Russia and US typing in the chat…
15 proxy states typing
These organisms are doing their best, okay? They’re just too smol.